WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:07.660 Oh, we're back. We're back in Arizona at the middle of and damn I feel safer more insulated 00:07.660 --> 00:13.180 But we took time to take a trip down to Narkapoko with the Narkapoko 00:13.180 --> 00:19.240 Jeff Berwick's on going to split it to us. This is um, I'm just going to rattle off some of the issues 00:19.240 --> 00:25.520 I want to make sure that we get to and then just let Jeff monologue us all to hell, you know one I 00:26.900 --> 00:28.600 Haven't seen Jeff in a few years 00:28.600 --> 00:34.240 Go back he comes over and says yo, what's up? We're yakking and I'm looking at my holy crap 00:34.240 --> 00:40.480 You're like 10 years younger and I'm gonna put up here. I'll show you I show you this. This is Jeff now 00:40.480 --> 00:45.280 He's a teenager. I mean, oh my god, you know, so he'll talk about his health stuff 00:45.280 --> 00:51.220 He's always got some health thing and the unit the selling and you too can be young and whatever the crap 00:51.220 --> 00:57.080 But bottom line Jeff's looking pretty good, you know, he take care of his health, you know 00:57.080 --> 00:59.980 You stop drinking. I don't know if you're smoking still or whatever 00:59.980 --> 01:07.180 But there may be some secret sauce to Joe you gonna explain it to us because I tell you from personal looking at Jeff 01:07.180 --> 01:13.000 He's a lot younger a lot healthier looking better. Just saying now a Narkapoko, of course 01:13.000 --> 01:19.020 We're gonna go over that we want to talk about a Narkapoko and its success and the move from 01:19.640 --> 01:24.380 Akapoko after the hurricane of you know a friend down there that lived in 01:25.560 --> 01:29.700 Akapoko now this in Puerto Vallarta. She was saying. Oh my god 01:29.700 --> 01:35.700 200 mile an hour winds for six hours plus. It's like man 01:35.700 --> 01:39.320 She go, I'm glad my husband was here take care of business because I fold it 01:39.320 --> 01:46.480 They would and they were prepped up with enough alcohol and cigarettes, you know to be able to pass out the security 01:46.480 --> 01:52.660 So they they're getting paid in cigarettes, you know, silver gold crypto. Yeah, we'll take cigarettes 01:52.660 --> 01:59.180 I mean, you know it so there's that you gotta keep that in mind and then they go to Puerto Vallarta to be safer 01:59.700 --> 02:05.840 Well, then what happens? We'll talk about that too. You know how what was really going on there and who do you ask? 02:06.780 --> 02:11.660 You know, it's the taxi drivers to uber guys to the maids the concierge 02:11.660 --> 02:15.440 You know the people the staff there are not good people that live there 02:15.440 --> 02:19.640 You want to get the truth you go to the source and of course 02:20.220 --> 02:24.220 One thing I wanted to comment on are we there yet? Are we that where we're there? 02:24.540 --> 02:32.420 I mean, you know, so the beginning is nigh. We'll talk about that then the future, you know the community the Liberty community 02:33.180 --> 02:42.340 Predictions crypto, but I want to start with that one right there. Anarkapoko has a lot of the English-speaking world 02:42.340 --> 02:48.440 I mean you get people from Spain and Europe and Africa and and so on but it's generally United Kingdom 02:49.040 --> 02:54.960 Canada, Australia, New Zealand, I mean you got you know the Queen's money or Kings 02:55.760 --> 02:57.540 Zonda you're printed money 02:59.040 --> 03:06.660 They're abused and they want to go to Anarkapoko and this has been a trend that I see from around the world 03:06.660 --> 03:09.180 generally English-speaking but 03:09.180 --> 03:12.020 You know us is represented 03:12.020 --> 03:18.280 but I mean it's a lot of the English-speaking world looking for freedom and they find Anarkapoko and they're 03:18.440 --> 03:26.860 Fans of Jeff and you know his walkabouts with his dog and so on so they come and by the hundreds and it was a 03:26.860 --> 03:32.080 Really not I give my opinion, but first let's go to Jeff Jeff explain it to me, man 03:32.080 --> 03:36.340 You know what the move the first thing was you went from 03:36.880 --> 03:43.000 Anarkapoko, this is the first one imperative. I are to tell us about that decision and how that worked out. Would you please? 03:44.000 --> 03:47.000 That's what worked out very interestingly as you pointed out 03:47.000 --> 03:53.880 We had so many things happen to us in Anarkapoko so many that I don't think it could be a cult of coincidence at all at this point 03:53.880 --> 04:00.160 I even typed it into grok. I said grok if you had an event over eight years in Mexico and 04:00.160 --> 04:04.300 one of the one of the years someone was shot right before the conference and it was 04:04.300 --> 04:08.960 International news and it actually was which it shouldn't have been right. It was one person got shot 04:08.960 --> 04:12.840 But it was like top headlines all across the world 04:13.960 --> 04:20.700 Then after that we have a 7.2 earthquake right before Ron Paul stepped on stage the next year 04:21.260 --> 04:25.140 Then we got through the co-vades, which we had to hide in a place called the secret garden 04:25.140 --> 04:26.600 We were one of the only events that 04:27.160 --> 04:29.060 continued to run all through the co-vades 04:29.060 --> 04:34.000 Then we got hit by a cat 5 hurricane that came out of the blue not one person 04:34.000 --> 04:38.320 Well, I was like one of the only people who knew I don't know how I was one only people who knew but I 04:38.320 --> 04:43.640 Saw something on Twitter, and I was like this looks like it's a big hurricane coming and everyone's like no 04:43.640 --> 04:45.040 No, there's nothing on the television 04:45.040 --> 04:47.060 No one's saying anything and it was nighttime 04:47.060 --> 04:50.360 So most people just went to sleep and then as you pointed out a cat 5 04:50.920 --> 04:56.260 One of the only cat 5 has ever hit dead on on a major city before hit dead on Anarkapoko 04:56.260 --> 05:00.360 It actually hit directly at Max Egan's house and then the secret garden behind it 05:00.360 --> 05:04.360 But the secret garden was not very damaged at all it was very protected 05:04.360 --> 05:09.520 But that destroyed most of the city, but we still ran the conference that year 05:09.520 --> 05:14.320 Then the next year we got hit by a cat 3 rape before the conference which was it actually hit twice 05:14.320 --> 05:18.880 Which has never happened before I came in flooded the city went out into the ocean 05:18.880 --> 05:23.680 Gain strength and then came back in and sat on top of the city until the entire city was under 05:24.320 --> 05:25.420 numerous feet of water 05:26.120 --> 05:30.060 So then that all happened and then we were like 05:30.600 --> 05:32.800 We're actually thinking let's get out of the secret garden 05:32.800 --> 05:38.640 We've been here we were mostly there for the cove aids because a lot of like even the princess hotel in Acapoco said that they didn't 05:38.640 --> 05:41.020 If we had the event there in 2021 05:41.020 --> 05:47.000 We'd have to sit six feet apart and wear surgeons mask like they went totally crazy. They're like you have to wear surgeons 05:47.000 --> 05:50.920 Mass, I'm like we're not surgeons, but they didn't seem to get it and 05:50.920 --> 05:56.180 And so after a few years at the secret garden, we thought you know, it's time for a change 05:56.640 --> 06:00.640 Let's let's go back out in public again, and then we thought well, we're gonna do that. Let's 06:00.640 --> 06:07.680 Go let's consider all our options and I think we've heard so many people say that they they would come to our capoco 06:07.680 --> 06:11.400 But it's so hard to get that capoco, which has hardly any direct flights from anywhere 06:12.040 --> 06:14.260 So I thought well, let's try a port of Arta 06:14.260 --> 06:20.140 So we moved there this year and then right after the event on the Sunday after where a lot of people were still there 06:20.140 --> 06:21.800 It was hit by a massive 06:22.260 --> 06:27.640 Terror attack and so I took all that into grok. I said if all those things happened to one event 06:28.300 --> 06:31.520 Over an eight-year period what would be the odds of it? 06:31.600 --> 06:35.740 And it actually came back with this exact number and said one in sixty point six billion 06:36.600 --> 06:37.140 and 06:37.690 --> 06:43.760 So I think I think it's fair to say at this point that either we're being attacked or 06:43.760 --> 06:49.620 We're causing this and actually Christoph Elkiza that because very spiritual says that we're actually causing it 06:49.620 --> 06:52.300 We're like because we bring so many like 06:52.960 --> 06:54.680 truth and and freedom 06:55.200 --> 06:56.480 People who are very 06:57.020 --> 07:04.140 Coherence because all the stuff we believe in is all aligned with with truth with beauty with like not attacking other people 07:04.140 --> 07:07.420 Stuff like that. Whereas all these other systems in the world all are 07:07.420 --> 07:13.580 We're like a low-pressure system coming into a high-pressure system and it actually causes the stuff is what he says 07:14.160 --> 07:17.860 So it's either that or we're just constantly being attacked by the system 07:17.860 --> 07:21.400 Because there's no other way to explain how all these things keep happening to us 07:22.100 --> 07:26.560 But yeah, so we moved to Port of Arden as Port of Arden. It was actually amazing 07:27.260 --> 07:32.340 You know, I don't think you've been there last year or two if I remember correctly. You weren't there last year 07:32.340 --> 07:39.140 But it's changed so dramatically the event. It's become such an incredible amazing coherent beautiful 07:39.960 --> 07:45.020 Event like you remember the old days back in like, you know, because this was our 12th year 07:45.020 --> 07:46.780 You remember in our first few years 07:46.780 --> 07:53.680 There was always some sort of drama or chaos or fighting or all these sort of things and there was nothing like that this year 07:54.620 --> 07:57.120 Well, you know, the reason I think is 07:58.540 --> 08:02.680 Well, I don't know why it's just evolved it was you know, I 08:03.220 --> 08:10.920 This year it was at a convention center a newer convention center part of our art is almost like Dubai and the construction 08:10.920 --> 08:15.720 Oh my god, I even asked asked a grok. I go, what the hell is going on? 08:15.820 --> 08:18.540 Why is there so much building said something about well, you know 08:18.540 --> 08:21.200 It's a tourist thing and it's growing and get more popular 08:21.200 --> 08:27.320 But there's also something about the World Cup is coming to Mexico somewhere and that part of my art to be 08:27.320 --> 08:30.360 You know, like you're saying direct flights and it was so 08:31.240 --> 08:34.040 Convenient for us where before, you know, I 08:34.720 --> 08:40.900 During co-vades, you know, I MC'd a couple of years and what happened was my only condition was I'm not 08:40.920 --> 08:43.860 Getting a shot and you got figured out somehow I get down there 08:43.860 --> 08:49.620 So I had to drive to Tijuana or drive to San Diego go across the bridge and go and we could do it 08:49.620 --> 08:55.480 Okay, well inconvenience myself enough to you know help out and do I'm just not getting the shot. Well 08:56.740 --> 09:02.580 Now part of my art that it's a direct shot from Sky Harbor Phoenix here straight into part of my art 09:02.580 --> 09:06.980 And that wasn't that far. I mean there's a couple hours and boom. I'm going hell. Yeah 09:06.980 --> 09:12.940 I can see where it's more convenient because before you go to Mexico City and you wait for five gazillion years 09:12.940 --> 09:18.200 You get on a flight to go to Acapoco Airport and then you know the consternation there 09:18.200 --> 09:24.580 But it's it was more convenient. There was I tell you one thing that I noticed it was 09:24.580 --> 09:32.340 Not old but more mature crowd. There wasn't you know, the 20-something crypto people run around all over it was more 09:33.020 --> 09:37.140 People that were seasoned probably had resources. They were there for 09:38.040 --> 09:44.180 You know the next big rich Jeff's gonna make us rich thing and that's one thing that the dollar vigilante 09:44.180 --> 09:48.720 I remember that was a thing, you know, I don't know when you started it 09:48.720 --> 09:53.900 But I remember a lot of love illusionaries that young guys there are all Jeff Burwick up and moving the 09:55.260 --> 09:59.940 Acapoco and you know looking for a future. Well the dollar vigilante 10:00.700 --> 10:06.000 Explain what that is and that community that you have in their focus. Would you please? 10:06.920 --> 10:12.280 Yeah, the dollar vigilante I started in 2010. So it's 16 years old now 10:12.280 --> 10:16.840 I didn't start with any of this gray hair, although I am starting to lose my gray hair with the Tesla machine 10:16.840 --> 10:18.940 That's a whole other story, but the 10:19.940 --> 10:22.760 We started right after the 2008 financial collapse 10:22.760 --> 10:29.560 It became very clear to me at that point that this is not was going to be the last sort of big crash before 10:29.560 --> 10:32.060 The the complete collapse of the system 10:32.780 --> 10:37.540 And we're getting very very close to that now. So yeah, we started that in 2010 10:37.540 --> 10:41.300 We've always been heavy into gold silver and the gold silver mining stocks 10:41.300 --> 10:46.020 Which have done incredibly well in the last year and then we're also been quite big into crypto 10:46.020 --> 10:50.280 I recommend a bitcoin at three dollars. I recommend a therium at two dollars. So 10:50.280 --> 10:56.100 So yeah, we've done incredibly well over the years and basically the entire newsletter is about two dollars 10:56.100 --> 11:00.780 But it went down to 60,000 from 100 today. You're still probably making money, you know 11:01.620 --> 11:07.400 Yeah, yeah, well, we actually said we have a newsletter called the crypto vigilante because we can't cover it all in the dollar vigilante 11:07.400 --> 11:12.620 And they said to sell your bitcoin above 100,000 this year. So we nailed it again 11:12.620 --> 11:14.040 We we nail it all the time 11:14.040 --> 11:16.340 It's it's like the best newsletters in the world 11:16.340 --> 11:20.820 But no one really knows about it and we never get talked about because of course the powers that be 11:20.820 --> 11:25.120 Don't want anyone to know about this essentially a narco capitalist financial newsletter 11:25.120 --> 11:30.520 That's profiting from all of the destruction of all their central banking and all their big government 11:31.020 --> 11:34.280 Operations and things like that. But that's what we do at the dollar vigilante 11:35.580 --> 11:43.500 Well, this is it it creates this is one thing I want to get your comment on, you know, when I I went to the bitcoin conference 11:43.500 --> 11:49.540 Uh, the invitation of ross and leno brick when it was in los vegas, you know, this last august 11:50.100 --> 11:58.080 And I saw it was so beating the drum at store of value. It's digital gold. You know, we're just going to get rich and we're integrating 11:58.640 --> 11:59.180 you know 11:59.900 --> 12:06.180 Crypto in to the government and the monet monetary system and that was what I was afraid of I mean for years decades 12:06.180 --> 12:09.460 I'm like I can see, you know the hijacking bitcoin thing 12:09.460 --> 12:15.480 We have roger on a couple weeks before he got arrested after he published the book and we're working, you know with him and 12:15.480 --> 12:22.980 Aaron on, you know, demonstrating zano in the agris market here in occupy the land and at a principle, you know 12:22.980 --> 12:24.440 What it was for 12:25.020 --> 12:26.280 well, what happens is 12:26.980 --> 12:32.600 Now we have crypto is just it's a store of value. We're just going to get rich 12:32.600 --> 12:34.560 We're not in they just totally eliminate 12:35.120 --> 12:37.560 the peer-to-peer digital cash option 12:37.560 --> 12:43.360 And bitcoin I would say I'll tell you what it's intrinsic value is it's worth the golden silver 12:43.360 --> 12:45.920 You're willing to give up for its features 12:46.580 --> 12:48.120 Well, they take those features away 12:48.580 --> 12:55.140 All the things that we were you know, the privacy, you know the speed the cheapness all these things that were promised to liberty community 12:55.680 --> 12:58.580 Well, you take that away. What the hell is it good for? 12:59.300 --> 13:01.600 You know and I so we're looking for the privacy 13:01.600 --> 13:02.640 Do you have you know 13:02.640 --> 13:06.920 Little insight on some privacy coins where you see crypto going 13:06.920 --> 13:12.640 You know, is it just going to be get it on your visa and get kyc'd on everything or 13:12.640 --> 13:16.600 You know, we're going to have something else that's liberty community can embrace 13:17.600 --> 13:18.600 Yeah, for sure 13:19.120 --> 13:23.520 Yeah, when I started the dollar vigilante and then recommended bitcoin at three dollars in 2011 13:23.520 --> 13:25.880 I knew people like roger veer pretty quickly 13:26.400 --> 13:30.200 Raphael at Verde and so many and we were all basically a narco capitalists 13:30.200 --> 13:36.040 And we were super excited about bitcoin because we saw the potential for it to become the world's currency 13:36.040 --> 13:39.520 And by doing that it would get rid of the central banks and by doing that 13:39.520 --> 13:42.620 We would downsize governments massively if not completely 13:43.180 --> 13:47.960 Which would bring peace and prosperity on earth like we've never known it. So we were super excited about it 13:47.960 --> 13:52.840 But by around 2017 and this is actually just coming out the ebbstein files now a little bit 13:52.840 --> 13:59.640 To some extent it got hijacked even by jeffrey ebbstein himself, which I didn't even know and 14:00.360 --> 14:03.380 We were aware of it though. Like we knew what was happening at that time 14:03.380 --> 14:06.980 We knew was being hijacked by basically the globalists or whatever you want to call them 14:06.980 --> 14:11.980 And what they did was they limited the block size to basically like super tiny amount 14:11.980 --> 14:16.640 So that it could never ever be used as a currency by everyone in the world 14:16.640 --> 14:22.660 It can barely be used by you know, a few hundred thousand people really as a currency because of how limited it was 14:22.660 --> 14:26.460 So we spoke up dramatically about that rafael a verde who 14:26.980 --> 14:31.260 Is my partner at the crypto vigilante has been one of the most outspoken people about it 14:31.260 --> 14:33.660 He's been very against it ever since then 14:34.220 --> 14:39.000 Um, and then over the years, I've just become much less interested in bitcoin 14:39.000 --> 14:43.100 I'm basically not interested in bitcoin at all anymore even though we do have it in our portfolio 14:43.660 --> 14:47.580 Not right now as much because it's going down and probably will continue to go down but 14:48.360 --> 14:48.760 but 14:49.420 --> 14:54.200 For me personally, I have no like the the reason I got into bitcoin is what you just said, right? 14:54.300 --> 14:59.580 It was a way to get rid of the central banks. It was we thought it was private back in 2011 14:59.580 --> 15:00.060 Um 15:00.800 --> 15:04.540 We hadn't thought it through enough that you know, these coin analytics 15:05.140 --> 15:09.960 Palantir type companies and governments would come together to be able to track everything so well 15:09.960 --> 15:11.240 So we thought it was basically 15:11.240 --> 15:17.360 Monero is what we thought bitcoin was so then monero was actually launched over a decade ago 15:17.360 --> 15:22.460 And um, I became incredibly interested at that point and I just every year now 15:22.460 --> 15:26.880 I'm more and more interested in it. I think of it as what I thought bitcoin was supposed to be 15:27.490 --> 15:29.040 And it's actually been doing 15:29.560 --> 15:36.020 Fairly well considering it's been delisted from almost every central exchange on earth, which should be a huge hint 15:36.600 --> 15:40.260 That that is what the system does not want. Um 15:40.930 --> 15:42.020 So yeah, I'm a huge 15:42.550 --> 15:45.960 The proponent of monero and then there's some smaller ones that I like as well 15:45.960 --> 15:48.960 I've talked about it over the years like pirate chain. I still like pirate chain 15:49.820 --> 15:54.380 It's uh gone up a lot in the past and then went down a lot in the past 15:54.940 --> 16:00.220 A R R R, you know pirate chain R. I thought that was cool 16:00.220 --> 16:04.960 Yeah, that was a cool meme and everything but it's actually uh, even more private than monero 16:04.960 --> 16:08.820 And it's got a lot of things being developed on it right now 16:08.820 --> 16:11.460 So those are the two like obviously monero is the big one 16:11.460 --> 16:15.940 It's it's the big daddy and then like, you know, as far as the smaller coins 16:15.940 --> 16:18.960 I like things like pirate chain quite a bit 16:19.480 --> 16:27.360 Um, and I think they will start to catch on more and more as these governments and and things like that get more and more tyrannical 16:27.360 --> 16:33.580 Um, I think, you know, if you look back at bitcoin, the reason it took off was it was mostly used on dark, uh, web markets 16:33.580 --> 16:37.720 That's what the the russ ulbricht thing was all about. Of course, they went after ross 16:37.720 --> 16:39.820 They could find them because bitcoin is trackable 16:40.360 --> 16:45.220 Uh, but now there's no dark net markets on earth that use bitcoin 16:45.220 --> 16:46.640 They'd be crazy to do that 16:46.640 --> 16:52.120 They'd be far too risky and they all use monero. So really we're kind of back at square one a little bit 16:52.580 --> 16:57.740 with where things are at but um, yeah, I'm very bullish on monero for the future 16:58.700 --> 17:03.880 You know, we um, kind of latched on with zano and the reason was 17:03.880 --> 17:06.440 Is because it's creating an infrastructure 17:07.220 --> 17:12.880 That we wanted to use and they got their own stable coin and they got they got they got and I 17:12.880 --> 17:13.760 interviewed 17:14.240 --> 17:19.960 All the developers and so on before we kind of you know went in I wanted to talk to them why 17:19.960 --> 17:28.040 You know, why are you doing this? Why why why why why? Well, one of the main developers is a guy that created the 17:28.600 --> 17:33.960 Base code for being anonymous with monero, you know, so I'm going okay. So there's that 17:34.840 --> 17:36.260 When I talk to them 17:36.740 --> 17:40.160 It you know, of course, they're nervous. They don't want to kind of know I insist 17:40.160 --> 17:45.780 That both there was two guys one is kind of the businessman one was the you know, kind of the cto and I'm going 17:46.640 --> 17:50.720 I want to know why I always at why do you why why why why why? 17:51.340 --> 17:56.560 And he was from st. Petersburg, Russia and the reason was he didn't want to be surveilled by Putin 17:57.000 --> 18:01.520 You know, he's got you know, I I didn't want to be so I wanted to be private and I could do it 18:01.520 --> 18:03.980 And I did it, you know there. I mean what's the big deal? 18:04.520 --> 18:06.020 Well, he's 18:06.020 --> 18:12.880 Inundated by all these or narco capitalists and libertarians and all these principal people going because hey man, I just wanted to be private 18:12.880 --> 18:19.180 I don't know what you're talking about. So I'm talking and I go and look you need to watch this video the philosophy of liberty thing 18:19.180 --> 18:24.660 It was in russian, you know, it's in like 45 languages. We're going to be launching that project here soon 18:25.620 --> 18:27.720 The fifth beware the ides of march 18:27.720 --> 18:32.820 So Corbin and I've been working on this we can school it's a thing and we'll make sure you know about it 18:32.820 --> 18:40.160 But the whole point was is that if you know the philosophy of liberty is about self ownership in this eight minute video 18:40.160 --> 18:44.080 That you have this russian guy watch it in russian and get 18:44.540 --> 18:48.880 Okay, I get it and when kin school and did this, you know, it's a long story 18:48.880 --> 18:55.100 But it was 93 goes to russia after the soviet union is breaking up and he's got we got to get this 18:55.100 --> 19:00.620 Now this guy was his tour guide is now a billion-air grocer and you go. Whoa, okay 19:00.620 --> 19:04.620 That's cool. James. I was interviewing kin we find out all this and what happened 19:04.620 --> 19:10.220 He goes look this book jonathan adventures of jonathan gubble that you wrote that kind of austrian economics 19:10.220 --> 19:15.080 You know what it's all about in a simple format for somebody coming out of soviet union can understand 19:15.080 --> 19:20.880 I need a primer. I need something they understand, you know property rights tax. They don't know what the hell you're talking about 19:20.880 --> 19:26.020 We need to get that well somebody, you know an activist then made this flash animation 19:26.020 --> 19:29.220 But that was like a thing back in the day in the 90s 19:29.220 --> 19:32.320 And it was first translated into russian 19:32.900 --> 19:36.340 And i'm going when I talk why why why all these people 19:36.960 --> 19:40.340 Lately or last year or so it was well, I read 19:40.340 --> 19:47.220 You know like I see your book back there human action and you know, I read iron ran and I read and I read and I go, huh? 19:47.580 --> 19:47.980 why 19:48.860 --> 19:50.700 Why why why? 19:51.160 --> 19:54.000 All of a sudden nighttime reading, you know, you just kind of picked it up 19:54.000 --> 19:58.300 I mean there has to be a reason and it kept coming back to they saw that flash animation 19:58.880 --> 20:05.080 That it was about self ownership and it kind of sent them down that road. So I'm going okay. Well, then I'm thinking 20:06.100 --> 20:11.020 America's coming out of this woke stuff and everything. It's like we're coming out of the soviet union 20:11.020 --> 20:13.360 I mean we need to understand the fundamental 20:14.160 --> 20:17.720 base of what this is all about that you get that splinter 20:18.360 --> 20:22.080 Planet in their brain in their mind and that has legs 20:22.080 --> 20:28.840 I've seen how it's five ten years later and the same thing with a narcopoco. So the 20:29.680 --> 20:36.360 Lesson that you're trying to get the idea the philosophy the um, you know 20:37.180 --> 20:41.520 Understanding of what this is all about. How do you do that with a narcopoco? 20:41.520 --> 20:48.500 How effective have you been? What are the issues that you because you have a wide range of speakers on a lot of different things 20:48.500 --> 20:52.120 How do you craft that and is it just you you got staff? 20:52.340 --> 20:57.220 Tell us about an arco poco. Give me the elevator. They need to go next year of speech, man. Go 20:58.960 --> 21:02.900 Well, um, it's changed a lot over the years as you know in the first few years 21:02.900 --> 21:08.580 It was a lot of people in like black t-shirts and get really drunk and angry about the government 21:08.580 --> 21:12.200 And uh, you know, there'd be a lot of anarcho capitalists up there with all their slide shows 21:12.200 --> 21:17.480 Showing why government is so bad for the economy. Why it causes poverty and all this sort of stuff 21:18.100 --> 21:21.900 We don't have too much of that anymore because to me that's just like obvious now 21:21.900 --> 21:27.240 Uh, like if people don't understand that at this point, uh, you know, they're never gonna catch up in time 21:27.780 --> 21:32.120 Uh, and what I found is there's so many things that are related to freedom 21:32.740 --> 21:35.440 That uh, so many incredible speakers out there 21:35.440 --> 21:38.600 And talking about what's actually going on in the world 21:39.360 --> 21:42.280 And things like that. So we have speakers like david dyke 21:42.280 --> 21:43.640 maxi and 21:44.170 --> 21:48.520 And all kinds of like people just talking about what's actually happening in the world 21:49.180 --> 21:53.820 And what's actually causing it and stuff like that says a lot of what you could call truth 21:54.320 --> 21:57.560 People and a lot of freedom people and that's basically what it is 21:57.560 --> 22:02.780 It's it's basically a truth and freedom event and we are not afraid to talk about any topic 22:03.340 --> 22:08.540 We've had flatter stuff on for the last couple of years. We've had flatter debates stuff like that 22:08.540 --> 22:15.720 So it's turned from being a purely anarcho capitalist sort of conference where we really focused on the government to 22:15.720 --> 22:19.740 A lot more about what is actual freedom and this is actually a 22:19.740 --> 22:25.800 Evolution i've gone through myself because I used to think about 10 years ago when I was drinking a lot that the biggest problem 22:25.800 --> 22:28.100 In the world was the governments and the central banks 22:28.780 --> 22:34.340 Now I don't believe that anymore. I I actually think the biggest problem for almost everyone in the world is their own mind 22:34.340 --> 22:36.540 And the programming they've been put under 22:37.300 --> 22:41.840 So once I started to work on that and I did things like meditation for years 22:41.840 --> 22:47.820 I was doing between an hour and sometimes five hours a day of meditation for years and years 22:48.600 --> 22:56.040 And as I was I was beginning to like really realize a lot about what this world is and what causes all the problems 22:56.040 --> 22:59.780 And it's usually the people actually create their own problems themselves 23:00.580 --> 23:03.540 So that's when I started talking a lot more about that stuff 23:03.540 --> 23:10.400 So then we have people coming on talking about consciousness talking about uh, how to work on yourself self work shadow work 23:10.400 --> 23:14.440 All these sort of things and it's all kind of tied into one uh week 23:14.980 --> 23:16.500 And of course we talk about other things as well 23:16.500 --> 23:23.200 We talk about crypto because privacy crypto coins could still have the potential to get rid of the central banks and the governments 23:23.200 --> 23:24.100 Which will be awesome 23:24.660 --> 23:27.600 So we talk about every single angle of things 23:28.180 --> 23:32.840 Related to freedom and not just focused on how bad the government is 23:32.840 --> 23:35.580 I think that's that's like a given at this point 23:35.580 --> 23:38.280 I think if people at this point haven't realized that 23:38.820 --> 23:40.620 They're not coming to an archipelago anyway 23:41.180 --> 23:44.840 And so we don't have to start, you know, it's such a base level 23:45.440 --> 23:48.500 But yeah, that's what it's become. It's become a really interesting event 23:49.060 --> 23:53.980 With all kinds of incredible talks like we've we had talks on how they're injecting nano tech 23:54.100 --> 23:57.140 into people now, how they're uh 23:58.240 --> 23:59.740 What kind of um 24:00.600 --> 24:01.140 ai 24:02.660 --> 24:08.160 Systems they're putting into place to control people to control their minds. We had people talking about 24:08.160 --> 24:09.980 What is the history of the world? 24:10.700 --> 24:14.380 Is what we're told about history true, which it's it's definitely not 24:14.380 --> 24:17.580 And then they have all kinds of incredible theories on it 24:17.580 --> 24:21.280 So so it's really encompasses everything like you were there this year 24:21.280 --> 24:26.600 Like maybe you can tell me what you kind of saw is like this huge milieu of incredible 24:27.280 --> 24:27.720 topics 24:28.700 --> 24:29.820 You know, I got to 24:30.280 --> 24:35.340 Talk to a lot of people we had a you know table out in a lobby here and I spent a lot of the time there 24:35.340 --> 24:36.440 we were doing a lot of work 24:37.500 --> 24:38.380 and um 24:38.900 --> 24:41.320 The conversations were very interesting 24:42.000 --> 24:48.080 And a lot of the people that we met at the dinners and so on, you know, and sitting around table and you get a 24:48.080 --> 24:54.500 You know guy from new zealand and a australian seek that you know came with a friend that 24:55.360 --> 24:58.860 It's just it's just amazing how people wind up there 24:59.780 --> 25:00.860 My impression 25:01.600 --> 25:04.940 Over the years has been that anarca poco 25:05.460 --> 25:09.580 Was an experience that people needed like a lot of these festivals, you know 25:10.240 --> 25:14.760 You go and you find out you're not alone. And that's what a lot of people are looking for 25:14.760 --> 25:21.060 Am I crazy? I mean, I'm you know, am I the only one that sees and then you get all the receipts 25:21.060 --> 25:27.580 Then the details and somebody had like erin day going up and doing the epstein files on crypto of oh my god 25:27.580 --> 25:31.040 I mean, it was just we had him on yesterday, you know 25:31.040 --> 25:36.740 Uh doing all that we talked before but he said just even since anarca poco is ai 25:36.740 --> 25:40.500 Scanning all the epstein files and look at old man 25:40.500 --> 25:48.660 Then luke nick is so deep in with epstein and the future of and tether dollar and stable coins and 25:49.380 --> 25:55.280 Him and friends get the benefit of and trump and family doing their usd one stable company 25:55.280 --> 26:02.720 And then binance gets a pardon cz from there and then all of a sudden you find out he owns 80 percent of usd one 26:02.720 --> 26:06.600 Which is trump kind of oh my god, you know, here we go 26:07.200 --> 26:12.120 Anarca poco is a touchstone for a lot of people internationally 26:12.120 --> 26:15.260 It's not like you know, like we did our freedom summits in 26:15.900 --> 26:20.480 Here in arizona for a decade or more and all and that was a lot of the names 26:20.480 --> 26:25.280 I mean, you know, we have, you know, rom paul do rock. Well, you know peter shift doug casey 26:25.280 --> 26:27.280 I mean, we had a lot of the guys but it was 26:27.900 --> 26:33.380 Before they were famous, you know or in famous, you know, it was before people really understood 26:33.380 --> 26:37.720 There's a people and it was still that liberty group that they knew 26:38.290 --> 26:41.940 Well, then they get confirmation our narcopoco is a little bit different 26:41.940 --> 26:49.400 What happened with the narcopoco? It is what is the philosophy of liberty. It's about it's about 26:49.990 --> 26:59.340 You decentralization of power down to the individual, you know, certainly the family community something and it encompasses a lot of other things 26:59.340 --> 27:06.660 It's like a spiritual battle against evil. It is how do you, you know, quiet your mind and what do you pay 27:07.160 --> 27:14.560 What do you pay attention to and the future is about credibility? Who do you believe? Why are you guided by principle? 27:14.900 --> 27:19.020 You know, or is it well, we're kicking ass in Iran. We win. I'm team jersey 27:19.020 --> 27:21.480 Whatever the hell the future 27:22.140 --> 27:27.700 Is abundance and I want to, you know, bring it back to you on that I am looking at 27:28.420 --> 27:36.160 Especially living out on the land here that we knew that certain technologies are going to allow us to have a first world 27:36.840 --> 27:44.720 Experience is not too hungry. Not too thirsty. Not too cold. Not too hot. Not too unsheltered not to whatever and technology 27:44.720 --> 27:49.620 With the communication with satellite solar panel. I mean all kinds of stuff 27:50.180 --> 27:54.500 Gives us the ability to break away from this control grid 27:55.080 --> 27:57.800 And I'm looking for the future 27:58.540 --> 27:59.900 What do you see? 28:00.660 --> 28:05.700 Is the what are the people there for they come and they well, what's the next tip? 28:05.880 --> 28:10.180 We're going to get richer and kind of whatever and you know, hodl our crypto and you know 28:10.180 --> 28:14.500 Be worth more or you investing in freedom at least your own freedom 28:15.200 --> 28:20.860 So the spiritual aspect that you bring to this to battle between good and evil 28:20.860 --> 28:28.340 And you know, I tell you a lot of people are starting to embrace christianity. I mean, it's really the only religion that's you know 28:30.840 --> 28:34.700 Do unto others you'd have do unto you, you know, it's a 28:36.080 --> 28:41.900 What do you say you do here? Well, not rule one. Don't be a dick. I mean, you know, this is you know 28:41.900 --> 28:46.040 What's happening and I'm wondering the spiritual aspect of this 28:46.040 --> 28:49.140 It had a big impact on you and you're seeing 28:49.700 --> 28:55.880 God's mentioned a lot even by you, you know, they've got all these anarchist atheist libertarians and all of a sudden 28:55.880 --> 29:01.620 They're finding jesus. I'm wondering why did you anticipate that comment on that? Were you please? 29:02.980 --> 29:09.440 Yeah, that um, well for me personally it started with just doing the self work and the meditation and I got into 29:10.200 --> 29:12.080 You know deep meditations where 29:12.080 --> 29:16.800 Uh, you know, you can kind of just you kind of have this knowing 29:16.800 --> 29:22.220 um, you kind of this feeling of like that this isn't actually all that real 29:22.880 --> 29:30.080 And that that you're just in it for an experience and stuff like that. Um, and you know, even as a 29:30.080 --> 29:32.120 logically speaking, um 29:32.720 --> 29:37.220 I used to think okay, what is this world and it didn't make any sense. It's like, okay 29:37.220 --> 29:41.400 We're in a universe and it goes on forever. It's like, okay. Well, that doesn't even make any sense 29:41.400 --> 29:45.340 Like there's no wall at the end if there is a wall what's outside that wall, right? 29:46.000 --> 29:49.580 Uh, like if you think about it logically, none of it really makes any sense 29:49.580 --> 29:55.300 So I began to just you know in my meditations and stuff. It became very clear to me personally 29:55.880 --> 30:00.900 That this is like a 3d video game that is basically inside the mind of God 30:00.900 --> 30:04.540 And you know, like even coming logically I couldn't come to 30:05.460 --> 30:10.040 Like this is all just an accident. Uh, that made no sense to me whatsoever 30:10.040 --> 30:13.920 In fact, if you really think just logically, uh, like 30:13.920 --> 30:17.880 Like none of this makes sense. None of it at all. Like this was clearly created 30:18.440 --> 30:23.040 So then when you get to that you start to talk about God or whatever you want to call it, right? 30:23.380 --> 30:26.380 That some something someone whatever you want to call it 30:26.820 --> 30:30.380 Created all of this and it's pretty amazing. It's pretty incredible. Like even 30:30.380 --> 30:32.800 You know the chicken and the egg like how did that? 30:32.920 --> 30:36.320 And you know, what happened like one had to come first, but it doesn't make any sense 30:36.320 --> 30:40.460 None of it makes sense. How is it their body does like a trillion things in every second? 30:40.580 --> 30:44.780 We don't have to do anything at all runs itself perfectly. It's like the most incredible 30:45.340 --> 30:48.040 Machine ever our brains you get into that 30:48.660 --> 30:55.780 So just from a logical basis and then getting into the meditation. Um, I just it became very clear to me that this is 30:55.780 --> 31:01.940 Essentially an experience we're having inside the mind of God. So that's that's basically where I went with it. Um 31:02.580 --> 31:05.380 And I started talking about that and I think a lot of other people 31:05.940 --> 31:10.120 Have started to come more and more to those sort of conclusions and you can of course go 31:10.660 --> 31:13.440 to the more organized religion route, uh, which 31:14.100 --> 31:17.760 Have mostly been like taken over and inverted for the most part 31:17.760 --> 31:22.020 But you know, there's people who like go with like the Jesus way or whatever that is 31:22.020 --> 31:24.640 And I'm like cool because like Jesus sounds awesome 31:24.640 --> 31:27.200 He said he did a lot of the stuff that I'm all about 31:27.200 --> 31:29.680 Like do one to others if you want them to do one to you 31:30.190 --> 31:35.360 The only time he got violent was with the government about taxes and with the central banksters 31:35.790 --> 31:37.120 And that's yeah 31:37.680 --> 31:41.200 So so I'm like he sounds exactly like my kind of guy 31:41.200 --> 31:46.080 But the thing with the the Jesus stuff that I find with a lot of people is they kind of get into this 31:46.080 --> 31:49.000 Oh, if I just believe in Jesus that everything will be okay 31:49.800 --> 31:55.420 I'm I'm more of the belief that uh, if Jesus was real, uh, because I don't believe anything about anything 31:55.420 --> 31:58.900 Like nothing in this street video game. I don't believe any anything I'm told 31:58.900 --> 32:04.580 But if he was real that uh, you were supposed to be like him is what you're supposed to be really 32:05.120 --> 32:10.740 And I I don't see a lot of christian people actually trying to be and do the work 32:10.740 --> 32:14.580 It actually takes a lot of work. You've got to get out your program 32:14.580 --> 32:17.220 And you've got to figure out your addictions you've got to 32:17.920 --> 32:22.040 It's hard work and that's what I personally did over like a 10-year period as you mentioned 32:22.040 --> 32:28.760 I used to drink a lot. Uh, and I had to do the hard work on myself the shadow work the self work 32:29.380 --> 32:33.440 The deep meditation to get to kind of like get to a new level 32:34.100 --> 32:40.120 And that I think is where uh, everyone should go and in fact, I actually say there's actually nothing to be done 32:40.120 --> 32:44.300 Really in this world in my opinion except for doing that work on yourself 32:44.300 --> 32:46.660 And once you do that work and you get physically 32:47.340 --> 32:50.280 Really good. So you can't and you know, there's a lot of stuff 32:50.280 --> 32:56.200 So even in the bible and stuff about you know, you take care of your temple because if your temple if your body isn't good 32:56.760 --> 33:02.140 Then your mind doesn't really work all that well. And if your mind's not working all that well, you're not going to be able to get into 33:03.420 --> 33:06.320 Consciousness levels where you can really connect with the source 33:07.440 --> 33:13.160 So, uh, you know, I basically say make sure your your physical temples as good as can be then work on your mind 33:13.160 --> 33:15.720 And that's a whole other ball of worms or a bag of worms 33:16.400 --> 33:17.820 bag of worms can or 33:21.340 --> 33:24.600 I had a close a whole other can of worms there 33:25.160 --> 33:28.640 With you know, there's so much program where we've got and also all of our traumas 33:28.640 --> 33:31.480 That's what actually affects most people in their lives is their 33:31.480 --> 33:33.900 Uh traumas that they haven't gotten over 33:33.900 --> 33:39.100 Um, and and that is so important for everyone to work on and then once you do that and if you can do that 33:39.100 --> 33:40.540 And it takes a while to take years 33:41.180 --> 33:44.140 Uh, then you start to be able to get into this incredible space 33:44.140 --> 33:49.880 Where you can just sit and connect more with uh, the source of my opinion or rise up to a higher 33:49.880 --> 33:53.520 Consciousness level and then a lot of this stuff just starts to become clear 33:53.520 --> 33:59.340 So for me personally that's been the route that I've took and and the fact that so many people in archipelago are kind of 33:59.340 --> 34:02.700 Doing similar now. I don't know if I caused that. I don't think I did 34:03.260 --> 34:07.700 But it's possible. I there was a lot of people who came up and said I changed their lives and they started 34:08.260 --> 34:14.040 Doing things like what I was doing and then all of a sudden they've reached these sort of levels or conclusions as well 34:14.580 --> 34:19.000 Um, but yeah, it has become a very different event from uh, 12 years ago. That's for sure 34:19.540 --> 34:22.080 You know one thing I wanted to there was 34:22.780 --> 34:24.360 A lot of shortcuts for people 34:24.360 --> 34:32.000 It was there's always a was it um, ayahuasca and boofoo or boofoo or whatever the frog thing 34:32.000 --> 34:35.620 Which I found out that frog is here in the snoring desert. I get the monsoon 34:35.620 --> 34:39.000 I'll be hunting me some frogs. But you know the um 34:39.540 --> 34:42.340 main thing was is that they would take and 34:42.340 --> 34:47.620 Take go through the ceremony. You got to prepare yourself. You know your diet and 34:47.620 --> 34:53.240 Drinking and you know water and make sure you kind of you got a shaman go through this process 34:53.740 --> 34:56.440 And I remember going on the beach in the morning 34:56.440 --> 35:01.860 There will still be out there watching the sunrise and I just got up and they were up all all night and still under the 35:01.860 --> 35:06.020 Influence and I would interview a lot of people and they hadn't come on the show and so on 35:06.600 --> 35:08.180 and it seems like these 35:08.940 --> 35:13.220 These drugs these chemicals these plants and animals and stuff 35:13.860 --> 35:17.560 Got them to a point to where they could process information 35:18.360 --> 35:25.540 Much faster their brain opens up and all of a sudden they're processing information about their entire life and therefore 35:26.100 --> 35:30.940 I'm not going back to chicago. I mean that kind of thing and it was um 35:31.860 --> 35:39.160 That was kind of the commonality that I got that it gave them the power to process their circumstances and think 35:39.160 --> 35:40.640 critically and deeply 35:41.100 --> 35:43.820 You know over a however many hours 35:43.820 --> 35:48.420 It time compressed or something and they were able to process all this stuff 35:48.420 --> 35:54.140 And then use their brain's capacity opened up to realize some truth 35:54.140 --> 36:00.200 Then the boof boofoo boofoo you can tell me about that the frog thing they um 36:00.700 --> 36:05.620 It's not as long a trip. I mean it's you know the influence over an hour or something like that 36:06.260 --> 36:12.060 And these are like shortcuts to what you're talking about. Do you recommend the shortcuts for some people? 36:12.200 --> 36:16.840 It's therapeutic or you just rather do the the long haul meditation thing. What do you think? 36:17.880 --> 36:21.960 I should say that when I first decided to go down this road and do the self work 36:22.660 --> 36:24.920 More than 10 years ago. I started with ayahuasca 36:24.920 --> 36:31.420 I did it twice and it gave me some incredible insights that no one would have been able to give me except for the plant medicine 36:31.420 --> 36:34.640 And actually it was to to allow others to help me 36:35.100 --> 36:40.260 Uh, it showed me that in the ayahuasca and that's what I wasn't doing. I wasn't asking for help 36:40.260 --> 36:42.300 I thought I had to figure this all out of myself 36:42.300 --> 36:46.540 But after the ayahuasca I began asking my wife for help and she started helping me 36:46.540 --> 36:52.900 Uh, and then I went on to do a bogey, which I actually do consider the most important plant medicine on earth by 36:52.900 --> 36:57.460 A million times over and it actually is nothing really all that psychedelic 36:57.460 --> 37:02.700 You just go into deep deep deep introspection for like two full days. And what's that called? 37:03.300 --> 37:05.220 Iboga it's from africa 37:05.900 --> 37:12.380 And uh, you basically do like a deep meditation that in some ways seems like it lasts for years 37:12.380 --> 37:17.740 Like you're in there forever. It seems and you your subconscious you look at your subconscious for like 37:18.300 --> 37:21.780 Two straight days and it's super hard because there's a lot of stuff in your subconscious 37:21.780 --> 37:26.840 You don't want to look at and that's actually your traumas and they're really hard to get to and really be seen 37:29.080 --> 37:32.860 But you can do that with the iboga so yeah when it comes to plant medicines 37:32.860 --> 37:37.160 I would say that they can be very very very helpful to people 37:37.600 --> 37:41.300 In some ways it might be the only way for some people to actually 37:42.180 --> 37:44.120 Reach higher levels basically 37:44.720 --> 37:50.240 Especially something like the iboga because otherwise it takes years and years and it's super hard and 37:51.040 --> 37:56.220 The the plant medicines actually make you have to go through it. So you're stuck there 37:56.760 --> 37:57.940 Like I'll give you an example 37:57.940 --> 38:02.320 Like I could get into meditations and I'd get into some pretty deep meditation sometimes and all of a sudden 38:02.320 --> 38:03.780 A memory would come up from my childhood 38:04.360 --> 38:07.320 And it'd be something I didn't want to look at right and it'd be like 38:07.320 --> 38:10.140 You know I was getting beat up by my dad or something like that 38:10.140 --> 38:15.480 And and I just kind of like wins and I'd breathe and I'd like not look at it because it was so hard to look at 38:15.480 --> 38:18.280 Right, like you're a little kid getting beat up by your own father 38:18.280 --> 38:22.460 Like just a you know, you can imagine like how traumatizing that is right 38:22.920 --> 38:25.480 The person who's supposed to be there to protect you right? 38:26.760 --> 38:31.800 So anyway, uh when I do that in the meditations, uh, I would I'd run away from it 38:31.800 --> 38:35.960 I just I wouldn't want to look at it. But when I did the iboga, I've done it twice now 38:35.960 --> 38:42.860 I did it once uh over 10 years or about 10 years ago and I did it again just a few months ago in Egypt at the pyramids 38:42.860 --> 38:52.320 And in this one it made me look at my entire childhood for what seemed like years and look at every little detail of it feel every emotion 38:54.220 --> 38:57.040 Just relive it and and and feel it again 38:57.040 --> 38:58.160 And by doing that 38:58.160 --> 39:04.020 I actually ended up over the course of time healing it all and it actually changed my life dramatically afterwards 39:04.020 --> 39:06.720 So yeah, when it comes to some of these plant medicines 39:07.220 --> 39:12.460 Like there's a reason that some of these, you know, native americans and stuff like that 39:13.100 --> 39:18.240 Do these things they're actually like I actually say if everyone on earth was forced to do iboga 39:18.880 --> 39:20.860 We would have peace of prosperity on earth 39:20.860 --> 39:25.940 Like we've never known it about a week later once they got over it and they can recover from it 39:26.500 --> 39:31.200 Because it will show them everything about themselves and they will be able to fix themselves 39:31.200 --> 39:36.580 And that's what I was saying earlier. Most people's problems are all caused by their own mind and that's what we need to really get 39:37.700 --> 39:42.600 Repair or fixed or healed you could say in order and then once you do that though 39:43.120 --> 39:48.460 Incredible things happen and you mentioned that some of these people were able to process massive amounts of information 39:48.960 --> 39:54.480 Yeah, you can almost become like superhuman as you do these different levels of of self work 39:54.480 --> 39:56.920 Basically what you can do with plant medicines as well 39:57.740 --> 40:02.140 You know, I've been invited, you know a bunch of times they're you know, come on Ernie come on come on 40:02.140 --> 40:07.360 And I just haven't had the time. I mean, you know, it's like I got responsibilities. I gotta do stuff 40:07.360 --> 40:10.540 It's not that you know, I wouldn't try it. It's just that 40:11.080 --> 40:17.900 You know, and I'd love to have a shaman somebody experienced friends come out here on the land and do that 40:17.900 --> 40:22.440 Feel safe and Donna babysit me. But you know, it's also I'm like 40:23.020 --> 40:27.900 I don't know. I need my pain. I mean, you know, a lot of what my life experience brought me to where 40:27.900 --> 40:33.080 I want to be now. I'm not sure I would benefit or I don't know but you know 40:33.080 --> 40:35.080 Everybody that I talked to 40:35.080 --> 40:42.180 There was a benefit they they got the process now some people they're they're they're coming up against their demons or whatever 40:42.180 --> 40:46.700 You know, they it's uncomfortable. You got to go through that and then uh, you know 40:47.200 --> 40:51.320 I don't know anyone that's done it once that says they wouldn't do it again 40:51.320 --> 40:57.800 Have you come across those people go? I'm not okay. I'm glad okay. I'm not doing that anymore. Have you gotten that response? 40:59.060 --> 41:04.860 Well, I was one of those people after the first time I did a bogey it picked the crap out of me so badly because I needed it 41:04.860 --> 41:11.800 I was basically depressed and suicidal and didn't want to live and all those sort of things and I did it as a last resort 41:11.800 --> 41:14.220 And it kicked the crap out of me. It 41:14.220 --> 41:18.780 Made me look at everything so much and it was super hard and when I was done 41:18.780 --> 41:22.600 I said I'll never ever ever do that again and it's because it was so hard 41:22.600 --> 41:27.300 But what I didn't realize is all the things that ended up happening over the next 10 years 41:27.300 --> 41:30.220 Was because of that work I did with the aboga 41:30.780 --> 41:37.100 And then I got to the point where uh, christoph mochizak was doing it in egypt right at the pyramids and I 41:37.100 --> 41:41.640 I'd said even months before that i'll never do a bogey again. It was way too hard 41:42.100 --> 41:47.480 But he kind of convinced me. He's like don't worry. You've done enough work now that it won't be that hard this time 41:48.040 --> 41:53.900 So I tried it again and it was still very very hard, but nothing like the first time but yeah, that was uh 41:54.420 --> 41:56.720 You know, so I was even like I'll never do that again 41:56.720 --> 42:03.960 But what I will say is that the uh, all the experiences I had from all of them and I've done most plant medicines now 42:03.960 --> 42:08.640 All have been very beneficial and definitely nothing negative for me at all 42:10.560 --> 42:12.460 That's I you know i'm 42:13.520 --> 42:20.020 I'm willing to experiment with you know people I trust that you know know what's up, but um 42:20.800 --> 42:21.600 I like 42:22.290 --> 42:28.220 My clarity of the I I think I get it, you know, I don't get all you know 42:29.000 --> 42:31.140 Hyperbolic about anything. I you know, I just 42:31.710 --> 42:38.780 Here it comes and we got to get ready for that's what you know occupy land things about but I'm I'm just like um 42:39.340 --> 42:45.680 What do you see the future is going to be your experiences talking to people around the world all the news that we got 42:45.680 --> 42:51.220 What happened part of my art to Ecuador now? Oh my god, you know around russia china 42:51.220 --> 42:58.820 I mean, it's like damn, you know our bingo card is full. So I'm just this has been um 42:59.420 --> 43:04.720 A dampening effect on a lot of people about the future and I'm seeing abundance 43:05.180 --> 43:08.300 I mean it it you know this too shall break. What's your opinion? 43:09.740 --> 43:15.260 Well at the heart of it. I actually don't worry about anything. This is all an experience that we're meant to have 43:15.260 --> 43:18.940 This we all have our own true man show in my opinion 43:19.460 --> 43:25.460 And it's perfectly tailored. We have to go through exactly what we have to go through some of it's very hard 43:25.460 --> 43:29.680 In order to learn in order to power up to the next level and stuff like that 43:29.680 --> 43:32.320 So when it comes to like what's going to happen with the world 43:32.920 --> 43:35.240 Um, I don't worry about it whatsoever 43:35.800 --> 43:40.240 Um, I know that this is actually not fully based reality 43:40.800 --> 43:45.400 Even as jesus would say he said I am in this world, but not of this world and 43:45.920 --> 43:50.080 You know when you come to that realization, you don't worry about a thing 43:50.080 --> 43:53.400 And that's not to say that I don't uh, you know 43:53.400 --> 43:56.100 Take care of things I need to take care of 43:56.100 --> 44:00.520 Like I'm living on a ranch with a blue roof right now for the directed energy weapons 44:00.520 --> 44:03.920 I'm drawing all my own food because they're poisoning the food supply 44:05.440 --> 44:07.060 I uh, you know 44:07.520 --> 44:11.380 I'm I'm doing all those sort of things. So it's not like I like I'm 44:11.380 --> 44:18.440 Completely like just like I'm not worried about anything, but I you know inside the video game inside this experience inside this true man show 44:18.880 --> 44:21.160 um, I do um, you know 44:21.820 --> 44:26.060 Pay attention to everything going on and be careful and you know that sort of a thing 44:26.760 --> 44:29.580 But at the end of the day, I don't worry at all 44:29.580 --> 44:32.840 Because uh, there's only one thing this is the realization 44:32.840 --> 44:36.280 I've come to over the years is there's only one thing that exists 44:36.280 --> 44:39.760 Uh, there's only one thing that's ever existed never will exist and that's consciousness 44:39.760 --> 44:45.200 And that's what we are and we're having just this experience inside consciousness and and I think 44:45.200 --> 44:52.160 In some respect all this stuff going on like just look at how tyrannical like even when we were talking about freedom like 20 years ago 44:52.160 --> 44:56.540 Uh, we I don't think we could ever imagine like everything that's happened in the last five or 10 years 44:56.540 --> 45:01.660 The Kobe side. I can't believe that even happened. They locked down the entire world over a fake 45:01.660 --> 45:07.380 Sort of virus thing and then tried to inject everyone with poison. They gave them french fries to do it and they did it 45:07.380 --> 45:11.460 Um, like we're living in crispy cream doughnuts. They almost have me there 45:13.380 --> 45:14.520 Yeah, so like 45:14.920 --> 45:20.240 Like I couldn't even imagine this stuff like 10 or 20 years ago and now we're living in and I think it's you know 45:20.240 --> 45:24.340 It's just all part of the video game like and I think what we have to do right inside the video game 45:24.340 --> 45:27.080 Is figure out our own path and you know, first of all 45:27.080 --> 45:32.380 Making sure you never sell your soul and that would be you know, doing something that's not right 45:32.380 --> 45:35.900 In exchange for some sort of profit to yourself like money 45:35.900 --> 45:39.060 Most people on earth have already sold their souls from in various ways 45:39.780 --> 45:45.700 So keeping your soul intact and then figuring out the video game figuring out exactly what's going on and like 45:45.700 --> 45:49.960 Trying to weave your way around all of the massive massive 45:50.480 --> 45:54.600 Like stuff like like they're count trailing most of the world right now. So what are you going to do about that? 45:54.600 --> 45:56.400 Well, you better be detoxing. That's for sure 45:57.220 --> 46:00.660 They're uh, trying to inject everyone with poison to try to inject people with nanotech 46:00.660 --> 46:04.680 And what are you going to do about that? You said you better be peacoxing. What what the hell's that? What? 46:05.600 --> 46:10.520 Detoxing, uh, you know with the chemtrails you're getting a lot of aluminum and stuff into your body 46:10.520 --> 46:14.200 You can actually detox a lot of it out even with just things like saunas and certain 46:14.780 --> 46:17.220 You know heavy metals sort of detox sort of things 46:17.220 --> 46:21.680 Um, so yeah, you have to learn all these things. They're poisoning the food supply. So what are you going to do? 46:21.800 --> 46:25.400 You're going to go live on the land grow your own food. Okay. Now you pass that level, right? 46:25.660 --> 46:28.600 So and then kill gates is trying to block out the sun. What are you going to do? 46:31.780 --> 46:37.320 It's amazing like it's incredible and uh, it's so much fun to try to win this video game 46:37.320 --> 46:41.000 That i'm just enjoying playing the game. That's really all i'm doing at this point 46:41.900 --> 46:44.520 You know, I think people are influenced by your 46:45.540 --> 46:51.920 Positive aspects on this and point out what is and isn't you know important, but um 46:52.480 --> 46:56.840 The health thing, you know, that that's always been a theme of narcopoco 46:56.840 --> 47:01.400 It seems and a lot of it, you know clean food and you know living right but um 47:01.400 --> 47:06.180 You you look I I wanted to mention that top of the show. I'm just going look at Jeff 47:06.180 --> 47:10.120 I mean he looks younger than what I mean. I'm sure you know cutting alcohol didn't hurt 47:10.120 --> 47:15.500 But you know, he's always got something up there kind of you know the tesla plasma of whatever and 47:15.500 --> 47:19.560 There's a whatever and take this whatever and supplement whatever and you need more testosterone 47:19.560 --> 47:26.060 I mean, you know, whatever it is, but let's talk about the tesla plasma machine. That thing was not free 47:26.060 --> 47:30.980 It's like 11 000. One of the guys bought it and he put it under our ticket. I store this here 47:30.980 --> 47:35.500 Yeah, whatever it's kate. I'm like damn did it happen? Well, yeah, I thought it was pretty worth 47:35.500 --> 47:41.400 I wouldn't bought it, you know, so go ahead and I'll let you do you commercial on this thing just because 47:41.400 --> 47:42.780 You know, it's a thing 47:42.780 --> 47:47.160 But go ahead and tell people what that was about and I'll pull up your site here for it. Let's see 47:47.160 --> 47:52.140 Well, I shouldn't say like I'm not involved with the tesla club like, um, I just 47:52.140 --> 47:54.660 I've become like a member basically 47:54.660 --> 47:59.480 I was like one of the first members they they came to me and they showed me the machine about two years ago 48:00.040 --> 48:02.720 And uh, I was just like most people are they're like, yeah 48:02.720 --> 48:06.080 Here's basically everything at the age is you all this sort of stuff and I was like, yeah 48:06.080 --> 48:12.140 Yeah, I hear and all kinds of stuff like that and they gave me one of the machines and um, I actually healed my dog 48:12.140 --> 48:17.220 Bruce Lee's eye, which was completely white within two days with it and I was like, oh, that's interesting 48:17.680 --> 48:20.860 And then I had a maid who had a bad back for more than a decade 48:20.860 --> 48:26.720 And she was just about to quit and I put it on her back for 15 minutes and she's like the next day 48:26.720 --> 48:27.500 She was lugging 48:28.120 --> 48:31.600 Large packages around the house. No problem. She's been fine ever since 48:32.060 --> 48:37.420 So I went and I've used it with like probably hundreds of people now and every almost every time 48:37.420 --> 48:41.760 It cures whatever their problem is. So I was like, okay, this is real 48:41.760 --> 48:46.140 So I I was talking to them. I'm like, you guys got to get this out to people and 48:46.140 --> 48:49.020 And they were like, well big farm old probably kill us 48:49.020 --> 48:52.120 So, you know, if if they find out who we are and I'm like, well, you guys are smart 48:52.120 --> 48:56.200 At narco capitalist type people. I met them at narcopoco. I said, you know 48:56.760 --> 49:01.680 To an underground people can pay with Monero. You ship it anywhere in the world as a science kit 49:01.680 --> 49:05.240 Uh, it actually looks like it's nothing too special to to get by customs 49:05.980 --> 49:11.720 Um and all that kind of stuff. Um, so yeah, like I've I've just been helping them along the way because I believe in it 49:11.720 --> 49:15.100 So much I think it's so like to me personally. This is the biggest 49:16.440 --> 49:18.700 Re rediscovery of our lifetimes by far 49:18.700 --> 49:23.900 There's nothing that even comes close and I say rediscovery because I think people used to have access to this stuff 49:23.900 --> 49:26.760 Because nicola tesla did it about a hundred years ago. He had 49:27.340 --> 49:28.400 Basically tesla 49:28.940 --> 49:34.920 Plasma machines back then and then donald trump's uncle and the cia came in and stole it and they've managed to keep it 49:34.920 --> 49:37.680 Mostly hidden from humanity for about a hundred years 49:38.380 --> 49:41.780 But a mad scientist in mexico a literally crazy guy 49:42.380 --> 49:48.360 Stumbled across a way to create not only the plasma that nicola tesla was doing but like way more effective 49:48.360 --> 49:52.620 Way stronger and it could run way longer because the old machines could run for like 10 minutes 49:52.620 --> 49:57.380 But this one can run for like all day if you want and um, and so 49:58.000 --> 50:01.240 They just started doing it about a year and a half ago just putting it out 50:01.240 --> 50:07.200 And so many people have been healed from it now the like paralysis people people couldn't walk dogs who couldn't walk 50:07.660 --> 50:09.160 All of a sudden now can walk 50:09.820 --> 50:13.180 People are gonna have to legs amputated and then a few weeks later 50:13.180 --> 50:15.740 They're like walking miles a day and they're fine 50:16.340 --> 50:17.560 Multiple sclerosis lady 50:17.560 --> 50:18.440 You know the mechanism 50:19.740 --> 50:22.220 The mechanism is tricky 50:22.760 --> 50:26.240 Because it's nothing that you can fully explain 50:26.240 --> 50:33.860 Basically, uh, when you look at plasma and what nicola tesla said about plasma and you know plasma used to be talked about quite a bit 50:33.860 --> 50:38.160 Even ether where used to be in the periodic table of elements and stuff 50:38.160 --> 50:41.580 And they actually took it out about like when rockefeller took over all the medicine stuff 50:42.240 --> 50:45.760 Like a hundred and some years ago, uh, they they hid all this stuff 50:45.760 --> 50:49.360 But basically what it appears to be is 50:50.040 --> 50:51.640 It it appears to read 50:52.160 --> 50:55.740 Um, take your cells which most of our cells like I'll give you one example 50:55.740 --> 51:00.260 I did a uh quantum biofeedback machine one year after I had the tesla machine 51:00.260 --> 51:03.160 I used it almost every day because it gives me incredible energy 51:03.680 --> 51:08.420 Like insane amount of energy like I can just go like all week in a narcaboga. It was like no problem 51:08.420 --> 51:09.980 What's why I just go go go no problem 51:09.980 --> 51:12.620 Uh, because I have so much energy from the machine 51:12.620 --> 51:16.120 And I did the uh quantum biofeedback machine last year to narcopoco 51:16.720 --> 51:23.120 And uh, I'm 55 years old. I was 54 last year and uh, my tissue age was the same as a 30 year old 51:23.120 --> 51:25.760 And I had the energy of my cells of a 10 year old 51:25.760 --> 51:30.340 And that's exactly what I was feeling and actually I could I can just like I've 51:30.340 --> 51:33.040 It seems like I'm de-aging in so many different ways 51:33.840 --> 51:39.320 And what we think or no one knows exactly but it appears the plasma which you can get out of the ether 51:39.320 --> 51:41.640 So it's all around us. Uh, that's the incredible thing 51:41.640 --> 51:44.880 That's the most beautiful thing about all this stuff is, you know 51:44.880 --> 51:48.860 You have big pharma and the doctors and the guys in the butcher coats with the really bad handwriting 51:48.860 --> 51:53.020 And they'll tell you you they can't cure anything big pharma has never cured anything ever 51:53.020 --> 51:57.500 But they've got a million pills that'll make your life maybe a little better and then worse later 51:57.500 --> 52:00.280 And then you know, you'll be broken dead at the end of it 52:00.280 --> 52:03.780 When we actually have all that we need all around us 52:03.780 --> 52:07.100 We just need a way to be able to grab that out of the ether 52:07.100 --> 52:09.780 And that's what the the tesla machine does and 52:10.700 --> 52:16.640 What it basically does is it appears to revert your cells back to full functionality because most sickness 52:17.040 --> 52:25.540 Is actually just because people's cells their body just isn't operating properly because it's toxic with either all the toxins 52:25.540 --> 52:32.680 That it's all around us with everything or even emotional toxins and emotional trauma can actually 52:33.240 --> 52:34.880 Be in your body. Um 52:34.880 --> 52:37.760 So every what we think we don't know 52:38.260 --> 52:41.480 Is that it resorts your cells to like full electric 52:42.100 --> 52:47.240 Functionality again and when your body does that your body can heal itself of anything your body is an incredible 52:48.000 --> 52:48.520 magical 52:49.240 --> 52:54.100 Uh mystery basically like like what else do you have like I don't know how old you are Ernie 52:54.100 --> 52:58.740 But like I don't have anything that's 55 years old that I haven't really taken all that much care of 52:58.740 --> 53:02.300 That still runs like awesome except for my body, right 53:02.680 --> 53:07.640 Like like everything else breaks after a couple of years. It just gets old or creaky. It just dies 53:07.640 --> 53:10.120 You got to replace parts and all this sort of stuff 53:10.120 --> 53:11.520 But this body is amazing 53:11.520 --> 53:18.440 But what we have to do is be able to make it run optimally and of course there's other things involved in that like diet and exercise and stuff like that 53:18.440 --> 53:18.660 but 53:19.760 --> 53:24.880 Most of the problems that people have is because their body is just toxic and it could be like I said physical 53:24.880 --> 53:30.400 It could even be emotional or trauma based and this plasma out of the ether appears to 53:30.400 --> 53:31.580 bring those 53:32.060 --> 53:33.680 parts of your body back to 53:33.680 --> 53:39.640 Full function and when it does that whatever does ease that the doctors and the butcher coats tell you have 53:39.640 --> 53:42.700 Which is just a description of a problem that you have 53:43.260 --> 53:50.400 Usually seems to go away because the body can actually heal itself if it has the energy and the and the full functionality to do it 53:50.400 --> 53:54.520 Uh, and so that's what we think it does, but we don't really even know it's incredible 53:54.520 --> 53:59.720 What do you what do you think it is that had the biggest uh, and I you know, I don't want to 54:00.400 --> 54:04.200 Harp on it too much, but when Jeff came over just hang 54:04.940 --> 54:09.780 Conversation we're setting up and so on. We're just yakking and I'm looking at I'm like a holy shit 54:09.780 --> 54:13.440 You look like 10 years younger when I saw you last. What do you think? 54:14.600 --> 54:19.820 Was mostly responsible for that was your emotional state, you know, your cleansing of your mind 54:19.820 --> 54:21.820 Uh, getting your mind right 54:22.980 --> 54:29.360 Detoxine the plasma thing all combined. No alcohol. I mean you you went full tilt on 54:29.920 --> 54:34.040 Getting healthier and better, but what do you think was the most effective thing? 54:35.240 --> 54:39.040 Well, I would say it's all of it for sure. Uh, definitely stopping the alcohol 54:39.800 --> 54:43.960 Was a huge power up for me. Uh, then I got a much better diet 54:43.960 --> 54:48.520 Then I started exercising and then I kind of went pretty uh, wild with all kinds of things 54:48.520 --> 54:52.760 I've got a hyperbaric chamber in my house. Um, I've got a lot of good things about that 54:52.760 --> 54:58.160 Yeah, I've got a steam room and a sauna. Uh, I've got a cold plunge pool 54:58.160 --> 55:02.000 So I do all those things and those have definitely all contributed 55:02.000 --> 55:03.820 But I would say the biggest 55:04.360 --> 55:10.420 Change has been since I've had the tesla machine two years ago because I couldn't actually do a lot of those things because I 55:10.420 --> 55:11.860 I felt kind of like sluggish, right? 55:12.000 --> 55:17.860 Like I actually spent three to four hours a day in my spa gym every single day doing all these things 55:17.860 --> 55:23.460 Um, but I I never had the energy to do it before but once I had the tesla machine all of a sudden 55:23.460 --> 55:28.000 I had like just basically unlimited energy. So I'm like, yeah, I'll go to the gym. I'll go on the treadmill 55:28.000 --> 55:33.060 I'll lift some weight. So I'll go in the steam room. I'll go on the sauna. I'll go on the cold plunge pool 55:33.060 --> 55:36.560 I'll go get some sun outside. I'll go in the hyperbaric chamber 55:36.560 --> 55:42.540 It just like everything just seemed so easy once I my body was just working so well with so much energy 55:42.540 --> 55:45.640 So yeah, I would say it's it's definitely a combination of things 55:45.640 --> 55:49.500 But by far the biggest difference has actually come from the tesla machine 55:50.620 --> 55:52.040 well a lot of the 55:52.580 --> 55:53.500 this uh 55:53.500 --> 55:59.140 Work you do on yourself and people should do and they get their mind and bodies right and so on 55:59.680 --> 56:00.420 it it 56:01.060 --> 56:03.300 in america we are so 56:04.860 --> 56:10.340 Inundated it's in the water. It's a fluoride. It's the chemicals. It's a centralized 56:10.340 --> 56:15.820 We got you know a water treatment plant for you and you have the air 56:15.820 --> 56:20.180 I mean, I'm out here in the desert and I'm like damn there be chem trail and something 56:20.180 --> 56:25.140 You know, I take some pictures and I say I go what the heck is that and you can see it kind of go 56:25.140 --> 56:30.560 You could spirits I'm going. Hey man. I'm just saying this is not normal. This is abnormal. Okay 56:30.560 --> 56:35.260 I'm just like this is not what I grew up with. I'm just saying 56:35.880 --> 56:38.780 Well, what do you think? I don't know but it ain't normal 56:39.300 --> 56:43.660 And then you have what's in our food? What's in our in our in our 56:44.360 --> 56:45.820 After you do this 56:46.980 --> 56:49.880 I'm wondering can you do it in america? 56:50.760 --> 56:53.940 Is it even possible to get away from a lot of this coming? 56:54.520 --> 56:58.680 You know, we do you don't azure gardens and you know, we do best we can but you know 56:58.680 --> 57:04.160 I'm is there another place to be is america it when I was on the beach in panama 57:04.160 --> 57:10.220 Doing a little walkabout about what was going on in Puerto Vallarta with the the violence so on if there was any 57:10.220 --> 57:16.040 I mean there was definitely smoke every half mile. They made sure you know, it looked like a gaza, but the um 57:17.220 --> 57:21.920 As i'm doing that i'm just is it america? Is that where we got to be? 57:22.120 --> 57:26.720 Is it mexico? Is it somewhere else? Is it anywhere? Is it space? Is it out in the ocean? Is it? 57:27.000 --> 57:31.880 You know, where's your community? Where's galt's gulch? And you got to find it or can you create it yourself? 57:31.880 --> 57:36.320 You know in your own area by doing the work on yourself your body your mind 57:36.890 --> 57:40.460 What do you think is there you know, do we got to occupy the land? 57:40.860 --> 57:46.080 Somewhere else or not even the land or space or go orbit mars mining asteroids 57:46.080 --> 57:50.200 I mean, what is it that you think that we should be focused on? 57:51.160 --> 57:54.280 Where we try and be free is there a place? 57:55.440 --> 57:59.140 Well, I would start with everyone needs to really do the work on themselves 57:59.680 --> 58:05.680 That we're just talking about to get out all these programs and get it physically mentally and spiritually really good 58:05.680 --> 58:08.160 And then actually all this stuff becomes very 58:08.160 --> 58:12.420 Obvious you see signs and symbols you get all kinds of downloads and stuff so 58:13.100 --> 58:17.280 Like I would say like there is no one place that is you know, safe 58:17.780 --> 58:18.580 There you know 58:19.180 --> 58:23.620 And we didn't come to play this video game to be safe anyway, but 58:24.440 --> 58:27.740 I would say for the most part trust your intuition and your gut 58:28.200 --> 58:33.340 So, you know if you feel like that's where you should be and you've done that you sit there, right? 58:33.440 --> 58:34.820 You're like meditating in the morning 58:34.820 --> 58:40.000 You're just like for an hour and you're like, you know just trying to feel and you even ask the question 58:40.000 --> 58:43.240 You know should I be here and all of a sudden it becomes this like 58:43.840 --> 58:48.080 Your body feels it and it goes. Yes. You're supposed to be here. Then that's where you're supposed to be 58:48.080 --> 58:52.460 So that's that's what everyone needs to do. You really need to go inside for the answers 58:53.540 --> 58:57.140 And there is no safe place, but if you do the work 58:58.280 --> 59:00.660 Really, there's nothing ever to worry about at all 59:01.560 --> 59:06.560 And even inside this video game if you do the work you actually get through everything 59:06.560 --> 59:09.660 You actually get you become like superhuman if you do the work 59:10.580 --> 59:12.480 Sort of like being a Jedi like 59:13.020 --> 59:17.980 Like even with the port of air to stuff, right? Like nothing happened to any of our people and I think a 59:17.980 --> 59:21.160 Big part of that is because a lot of us are doing the work 59:21.160 --> 59:24.300 And so a lot of our people just walk through it like no problem 59:24.300 --> 59:27.020 And you know, it really wasn't a major massive event 59:27.020 --> 59:31.000 It looked like it was at first and and of course in the news they said it was 59:31.000 --> 59:33.700 It was just a bunch of buses on fire for the most part 59:34.360 --> 59:41.360 But because a lot of us strategically located to make sure the town looked under smoke of I sit there and watched it 59:41.360 --> 59:43.080 From Panama and I'm going 59:43.660 --> 59:47.220 Oh, this is so manipulative staged up. There's something 59:47.220 --> 59:53.580 You know, Trump you got to get rid of the fentanyl deal with the president of Mexico and take out one guy 59:53.580 --> 59:56.260 Do kind of them will do Ecuador, Venezuela 59:56.820 --> 01:00:01.580 A random kind of there's a thing and I'm just this is not, you know 01:00:01.580 --> 01:00:07.480 What they're trying to depict and I just that let let's get to that real quick 01:00:07.480 --> 01:00:10.960 I don't want to spend a lot of time on it because it just make you talk about it 01:00:10.960 --> 01:00:14.800 But um, are you going to go back to pertovillar till you think next year? 01:00:15.580 --> 01:00:19.720 Well, one of the interesting things was there was still a lot of people there when this terror attack 01:00:19.720 --> 01:00:23.380 Happened which was mostly staged. It was mostly a show 01:00:23.580 --> 01:00:27.360 And it was done on purpose for yeah, mostly theater 01:00:27.960 --> 01:00:33.960 And most of our people didn't fall for in fact max zegan was out right as it was happening just with his camera laughing 01:00:34.520 --> 01:00:39.180 A lot of alternative media people were there and they're going out and showing it's like there's nothing really happening 01:00:39.180 --> 01:00:41.080 There's just a bunch of buses that are on fire 01:00:41.080 --> 01:00:46.220 And then actually another person went out and he saw that a bunch of the windshields were all melted and stuff 01:00:46.220 --> 01:00:49.820 So we actually suspect there might have been directed energy weapons involved 01:00:49.820 --> 01:00:55.320 But they actually picked the worst place to do this this thing because all of us are like used to this stuff 01:00:55.320 --> 01:00:58.300 And we've all done the work. We're not scared of anything. We're not fearful 01:00:59.140 --> 01:01:01.440 We're investigative and all that sort of thing 01:01:01.440 --> 01:01:04.220 So it's kind of interesting like even a day after that happened 01:01:04.220 --> 01:01:07.380 There were still a lot of people there and a lot of them went to max's bar that night 01:01:07.380 --> 01:01:09.820 And they're all like, yeah, I can't wait to come back next year 01:01:09.820 --> 01:01:13.480 Even though it was like, you know, this terrorizing event, right? But 01:01:14.180 --> 01:01:18.820 So yeah, most people I actually asked at the end of the event and this is before the terror attack 01:01:18.820 --> 01:01:23.260 But I think it's still the same that most people would like to have it back in port of Arta next year 01:01:23.260 --> 01:01:26.720 So we probably will where we have it. That's up for debate 01:01:26.720 --> 01:01:29.440 We're going to be sending out a survey to everyone who came to the event 01:01:29.440 --> 01:01:36.880 We're thinking we might even do it outside of like port of Arta itself and like san poncho and areas like that are on the 01:01:36.880 --> 01:01:40.620 On the coast there about 45 minutes from port of Arta 01:01:41.140 --> 01:01:44.000 But that's all to be decided. But uh, yeah, so 01:01:44.000 --> 01:01:46.660 Okay, I want to have a vote I get a vote 01:01:46.660 --> 01:01:47.660 I want to vote 01:01:47.660 --> 01:01:53.700 Everyone gets a vote, you know, we all believe in the democracy, you know, like that's democracy is, you know, the most important thing 01:01:55.560 --> 01:02:01.780 You know, I think I I really like the uh, an orca poco because it was 01:02:02.800 --> 01:02:03.240 um 01:02:03.860 --> 01:02:09.440 Broke up into a lot of different groups you get to meet people and talk and so on you go see what you want to see 01:02:10.100 --> 01:02:10.980 and um 01:02:10.980 --> 01:02:15.940 You had the beach and it was on you the vendors the massage tables you got 01:02:16.840 --> 01:02:21.860 Different resorts or different things that you've done in the past on the beach. This wasn't on the beach 01:02:21.860 --> 01:02:23.820 Now we were next to the beach 01:02:23.820 --> 01:02:26.040 I mean you could go to the beach if you wanted to 01:02:26.040 --> 01:02:31.000 But to have it at a resort that was on the beach added something to it 01:02:31.000 --> 01:02:35.420 And it also kept a lot of the people in the same place that you could do that 01:02:35.420 --> 01:02:42.860 It was it was pleasurable. It was nice. You really taxed out the taxis and the uber's but the um 01:02:43.480 --> 01:02:47.840 It was it was pleasant. It was nice. I mean if it was there again 01:02:48.300 --> 01:02:53.700 You know, I think it'd be cool, but I'm really like the the beach experience now 01:02:53.700 --> 01:02:59.400 There was one thing that I missed, you know, and if that could be accomplished, that would be cool. Um 01:02:59.900 --> 01:03:02.700 There is a lot of um 01:03:04.020 --> 01:03:07.440 Predictions that I wanted to just get your opinion on 01:03:08.080 --> 01:03:08.640 um 01:03:09.480 --> 01:03:15.960 You know you talk about you know all the political stuff, you know the midterms and this guy said that and who gets prosecuted and 01:03:15.960 --> 01:03:22.240 You know are you gonna arrest anybody about anything and aren't you know in the wars and rumors of wars and all this stuff 01:03:22.240 --> 01:03:26.780 It's just it seems to me. What if they had a war and nobody came or cared? 01:03:27.200 --> 01:03:34.320 You know and I'm feeling that I'm just like man, you guys do you we're insulated from we're getting away from 01:03:34.320 --> 01:03:38.800 We're getting our mind, right? You know, we're in the right place. We've found our tribe 01:03:38.800 --> 01:03:43.800 We're focusing on our family and new family and and the community and so on 01:03:43.800 --> 01:03:44.620 um 01:03:45.200 --> 01:03:48.800 Give us a view into the future a little bit. You know, what do you think's going to happen? 01:03:51.900 --> 01:03:58.140 Man, that's a tough question. Um, I think the entire um, this is actually great news for us 01:03:58.140 --> 01:04:03.560 I think all these governments um and central banks. They're all going to be collapsing in the next couple years 01:04:03.560 --> 01:04:04.300 um 01:04:04.780 --> 01:04:11.420 And then what how that plays out and what happens will be a little bumpy at the very least for a lot of people 01:04:12.000 --> 01:04:16.080 That's why I'm quite a big proponent of getting out of major cities 01:04:16.680 --> 01:04:20.860 Getting you know, like where you are there where I am here on my ranch 01:04:21.480 --> 01:04:22.420 Because I think 01:04:23.000 --> 01:04:27.440 As a lot of these things collapse, which is awesome and going to be so incredible 01:04:28.160 --> 01:04:33.240 That it's going to be very messy because so many people are so inured and so tied to the system 01:04:34.160 --> 01:04:37.680 That's uh, you know when the grocery store is closed when the banks collapse 01:04:37.680 --> 01:04:42.880 You know, I wouldn't want to be in like new york city when that happened, right? 01:04:43.720 --> 01:04:45.360 And there's all kinds of other things 01:04:45.360 --> 01:04:47.100 But I think the more that people just 01:04:47.100 --> 01:04:53.900 Do what you're saying and and just detach from the system and go off wherever they go and create their new life 01:04:53.900 --> 01:04:55.640 And their new economy and their new 01:04:55.640 --> 01:05:00.280 Whatever they're going to do grow their own food. I think the more that people do that the better 01:05:00.280 --> 01:05:01.920 um, and I think 01:05:02.560 --> 01:05:09.460 If they're smart, uh, if they're paying attention, uh, if they're doing the work, uh, they will probably have a 01:05:10.110 --> 01:05:15.320 Be able to survive the next couple of years and then after that, I think we could go on to an incredible new world 01:05:15.890 --> 01:05:18.200 Incredible that will be yeah, just incredible 01:05:18.200 --> 01:05:21.260 But you're gonna have to survive the collapse of the old world 01:05:21.740 --> 01:05:23.380 You're gonna have to be smart to do that 01:05:24.000 --> 01:05:25.700 You know one thing before you go 01:05:27.340 --> 01:05:27.800 Onarcapoco 01:05:29.080 --> 01:05:36.640 Always videos it you get access to it. You able to see you know, uh the videos that you missed and so on 01:05:36.640 --> 01:05:41.080 Um, you know, I'm sure I got access as a speaker thing whatever 01:05:41.080 --> 01:05:46.360 But there was a bunch of things that I missed that I wanted to see because of scheduling 01:05:46.360 --> 01:05:48.080 There was so much going on 01:05:48.760 --> 01:05:54.340 How do I get to the videos man, you know, it's you know, pipping out for the people we can go watch videos 01:05:54.340 --> 01:05:54.860 What's that? 01:05:55.940 --> 01:05:58.140 Yeah, you can get them at onarcapoco.com 01:05:58.140 --> 01:06:02.720 Uh, I don't know exactly where it is on the website, but it should be there probably near the top 01:06:02.720 --> 01:06:08.680 Get virtual tickets or replays and uh, yeah go to tickets and then if you go there, they should 01:06:09.080 --> 01:06:15.600 If you click on tickets, I think you have to actually click on it. I think it should open down below. Yeah, here you go 01:06:17.080 --> 01:06:22.520 Uh, oh we got pre-sales for 2027 already. I didn't know about that. Um scroll down 01:06:22.520 --> 01:06:25.020 On there, I think it passed it already 01:06:26.080 --> 01:06:29.940 Scroll up scroll up. There it is. Scroll down. No, scroll down 01:06:30.540 --> 01:06:34.080 Yeah, right there and I come up to 2026 virtual access. There you go 01:06:34.600 --> 01:06:37.840 And if you want you can get the dollar vigilante and crypto vigilante bundle as well 01:06:37.840 --> 01:06:42.460 Um, and yeah, there was so many incredible talks and we actually had two stages as you know 01:06:42.460 --> 01:06:48.340 And we recorded all of it. So there's a massive amount of incredible information and incredible speakers 01:06:48.340 --> 01:06:53.280 Um, so yeah, you can get access to all of it for just 150 bucks pretty good 01:06:53.280 --> 01:06:57.740 It's like a I don't know got to be a hundred hours of of stuff which you can watch at your own pace 01:06:57.740 --> 01:07:03.040 Of course, unlike us at the event. We had to watch it like every single day every hour of every day 01:07:03.040 --> 01:07:08.440 You can kind of take your time, but yeah, it's there's so much good information in there. I highly recommend it 01:07:09.080 --> 01:07:11.660 Yeah, this is um, we're at a 01:07:12.680 --> 01:07:16.420 It's a mile marker. We're at a mile marker in history 01:07:16.420 --> 01:07:20.840 You know, this is you know, what's going on now is you know, there's a before 01:07:21.520 --> 01:07:23.860 And there's an after there's a before 01:07:25.060 --> 01:07:31.580 Invasion of Iran, Venezuela, Ecuador, whatever trump kind of whatever and an orca poco 01:07:31.580 --> 01:07:34.920 You know hum and we're just getting to the truth kind of deal 01:07:35.620 --> 01:07:38.160 And there's an after and the after 01:07:38.760 --> 01:07:46.320 I I'm very very optimistic see the whole concept of freedoms phoenix was from the ashes of lady liberties torch 01:07:46.840 --> 01:07:51.000 Freedom's rebirth freedoms phoenix. That was the point, you know for my grandkids 01:07:51.000 --> 01:07:56.220 I'm like I we're going to have to go through the ashes and when we saw in late 19 01:07:56.220 --> 01:08:02.000 It was the movie joker came out with a walking phoenix and I'm watching I'm like what the crap was that 01:08:02.000 --> 01:08:06.800 You know, it's it's like predictive programming kind of do it and then that summer 01:08:06.800 --> 01:08:09.520 Here we go Portland and Iowa. Yep. Here we go 01:08:09.520 --> 01:08:15.680 Here come the ashes and people going to have to start making decisions for themselves and their future and their families and 01:08:15.680 --> 01:08:19.120 And you have you know a young you have a family 01:08:19.120 --> 01:08:24.420 You got a young son was on your shoulders out there and he was you know digging that but 01:08:24.420 --> 01:08:27.680 You know, you got he had to go put on a spider man outfit man 01:08:28.260 --> 01:08:33.860 Come back and show everybody. So you got a young son. You you're looking into the future 01:08:33.860 --> 01:08:36.820 Are you feeling pretty optimistic? You okay? 01:08:38.420 --> 01:08:40.740 Yeah, like in general, yes, um 01:08:41.860 --> 01:08:45.580 I think it's going to be a very different world that he's going to grow up in 01:08:45.580 --> 01:08:51.620 Even if you look at the AI stuff, which but I think the AI stuff is all actually going to start collapsing in a couple years 01:08:51.620 --> 01:08:53.120 For a number of different reasons 01:08:53.820 --> 01:09:01.020 Um, but yeah, no, I'm gonna you know, he's already like had so much better childhood than me or my my wife 01:09:01.020 --> 01:09:02.180 ever could have imagined 01:09:02.700 --> 01:09:03.060 We're 01:09:03.580 --> 01:09:11.500 You know just making sure his life is full of love and connection and never has to you know, worry about anything and 01:09:11.960 --> 01:09:17.200 It's just all beauty and love and and a huge family that he's always playing with and 01:09:17.660 --> 01:09:20.580 Um, I just expect we'll just continue on like that 01:09:20.580 --> 01:09:26.740 He'll never see the inside of a government indoctrination camp, of course and just be unschooled and you know 01:09:27.340 --> 01:09:29.920 Even if it ends up, he just ends up running this ranch 01:09:30.460 --> 01:09:34.520 And with all the animals and with all the greenhouses and growing our own food 01:09:34.520 --> 01:09:38.060 And if he wants to make a business out of that at some point or whatever 01:09:38.060 --> 01:09:40.360 I don't know, but you know, I'm not too worried 01:09:40.860 --> 01:09:44.720 Even if it turns worst-case scenario and we go into this full terminator 01:09:44.720 --> 01:09:49.520 Pelletier thing with drones coming around trying to kill us all all of us freedom fighters and stuff 01:09:49.520 --> 01:09:50.160 like 01:09:50.160 --> 01:09:54.820 Like he's he's a he's a strong kid. We have a gym in our house 01:09:54.820 --> 01:09:56.640 He's going to be in the gym all the time 01:09:56.640 --> 01:10:01.320 If he gets up to like, I don't know 16 years old and he's like in perfect physical shape 01:10:01.320 --> 01:10:05.820 And we have to go be out in the mountains like basically fighting off the government drones with like 01:10:05.820 --> 01:10:11.460 Cyber attacks that we're doing on them and stuff like that'd be pretty cool too. So even if it goes dystopian 01:10:11.940 --> 01:10:18.400 I think we're really going to enjoy just you know surviving it. Uh, and if it goes totally beautiful all the better 01:10:20.080 --> 01:10:26.580 Thank you for spending time with me. Jeff, you know, I think it's um, this is a good message for people to see that 01:10:27.180 --> 01:10:28.720 Resistance is not futile 01:10:29.260 --> 01:10:34.560 There is a tribe out there that you can find if you're freedom oriented individual and it comes down to 01:10:34.560 --> 01:10:36.780 You know, finding peace of mind 01:10:36.780 --> 01:10:43.100 You know just you know understanding the truth of things and anarcapoco is one of those things that 01:10:43.100 --> 01:10:48.300 If you're of this mind and you experience it you get a feeling 01:10:49.000 --> 01:10:50.000 Of relief 01:10:50.920 --> 01:10:53.060 You're not alone. You're not crazy 01:10:53.520 --> 01:10:55.740 You understand other people do 01:10:56.200 --> 01:11:03.220 And there is a future and a lot of it is just being comfortable in your own skin with your own family and your own community 01:11:03.220 --> 01:11:05.880 And anarcapoco is a very good 01:11:05.880 --> 01:11:10.560 Wide spread of all kinds of interests that you'll find something 01:11:10.560 --> 01:11:14.540 To be there for and then of course part of our art was very nice 01:11:14.540 --> 01:11:19.080 You know, you go around and it was safe even in the middle of all the crap. It was safe 01:11:19.080 --> 01:11:23.420 I mean, you know, this is it was such a sigh up and they do this every year 01:11:23.420 --> 01:11:29.020 Cia says don't go there. You'll all die or you know, we have a travel warning of against whatever 01:11:29.020 --> 01:11:32.100 Or jeffson, you know agent of the whatever 01:11:33.520 --> 01:11:37.640 Reptile bullshit. I mean, you know, it's just constant, you know, oh 01:11:37.640 --> 01:11:43.320 And ike, you know, uh speaking he did a zoom thing, you know, that was very popular 01:11:43.320 --> 01:11:45.740 You know like all of a sudden he's not crazy anymore 01:11:46.500 --> 01:11:49.400 You know, so a lot of this stuff has just been 01:11:49.960 --> 01:11:57.880 It was so refreshing. I really enjoyed it. Thanks for you know, inviting me down because I just I I really met a lot of great people 01:11:57.880 --> 01:11:58.680 Oh 01:11:59.420 --> 01:12:06.540 The founder of bit shoot is going to feature our project at the top and do I mean, this is it's a really good networking 01:12:07.120 --> 01:12:12.120 Opportunity as well and you get your mind and body right. It was really good experience 01:12:12.120 --> 01:12:19.120 And we look forward to promoting 27 and uh, I'm very interested in where it's going to be and how you know 01:12:19.120 --> 01:12:21.340 We'll we'll participate. We'll make something happen 01:12:21.340 --> 01:12:26.600 And you know, there's a lot of other stuff we can talk about but that kind of the gist of it 01:12:26.600 --> 01:12:29.500 Before you go, I mean the the the 01:12:30.800 --> 01:12:33.820 Visuals that they had for perk to buy art and the violence and everything 01:12:35.240 --> 01:12:38.680 On a scale one to ten. What kind of bullshit were we looking at? 01:12:41.000 --> 01:12:48.580 Uh, I think looking back at it, uh, 10 out of 10, uh, it was it was almost nothing in actual fact 01:12:48.580 --> 01:12:49.420 It was really 01:12:50.000 --> 01:12:55.280 About nine in the morning on sunday or eight in the morning all of a sudden and we're still not sure how this happened 01:12:56.100 --> 01:13:03.580 Like there was a bus on fire on almost every street in port of aerta and a couple a bunch of oxo stores were all on fire 01:13:03.580 --> 01:13:08.280 Uh, there was really not much else other than that. There was a couple gunshots fired 01:13:08.280 --> 01:13:10.800 We do know of one one person was hitting the arm 01:13:11.320 --> 01:13:17.660 But really there was hardly anything. Um, it was mostly a show and then after that they just left and there was no police 01:13:17.660 --> 01:13:21.860 The entire day actually for two full days afterwards. There was no police. There was no fire people 01:13:21.860 --> 01:13:23.880 They just let everything up fire and left 01:13:24.640 --> 01:13:29.700 And so as long as you didn't get lit on fire somehow or if you were in a building that was on fire 01:13:29.700 --> 01:13:35.960 You could get out. There really was almost nothing. Um, that happened. It was it was truly a staged 01:13:36.460 --> 01:13:43.860 Uh, psychological operation for a number of agendas. Um, it was it was really incredible to witness like live inside of it 01:13:43.860 --> 01:13:46.800 And that like I said, like maybe they did it that weekend 01:13:47.260 --> 01:13:52.500 Partly because we were there because they do seem to target our our event. It just seems that's the case 01:13:53.060 --> 01:13:57.700 Uh, and if that was the case they kind of backfired on them because max egan was out with in like a few minutes 01:13:57.700 --> 01:14:00.820 Did him with his camera saying what a joke this is 01:14:01.380 --> 01:14:07.620 Like there's nothing to worry about and all that kind of stuff. Uh, patrick henningston was out there dan dicks was out there 01:14:07.620 --> 01:14:13.980 Uh, we're I was doing a video. I was like, yeah, there's a bunch of fires. I don't know what's going on 01:14:13.980 --> 01:14:15.420 But I don't want your video 01:14:15.860 --> 01:14:17.020 behind your house there 01:14:17.020 --> 01:14:21.260 I I I'm I'm really glad that 01:14:22.500 --> 01:14:28.560 It happened to a crowd that you know understood they they could see they weren't all freaked out 01:14:28.560 --> 01:14:31.920 I mean, you know early on dan dicks was kind of you know 01:14:33.680 --> 01:14:35.600 Things are happening here, man 01:14:36.120 --> 01:14:43.360 But um, it quickly evolved in that. Yeah, it's just you know, they them those doing their thing and we'll find out later 01:14:43.360 --> 01:14:48.480 You know, it's always got to wait three weeks, you know find out what the real story is, but um 01:14:48.480 --> 01:14:54.440 I'm glad that you're there. I'm looking forward to promoting what you're doing next year and 01:14:54.440 --> 01:14:56.000 You got a great team, you know 01:14:56.000 --> 01:15:02.280 Take care of business and there's other festivals and so on that going and you guys are going to lever land lever toe 01:15:02.280 --> 01:15:08.120 Poco, you know, maybe there might be something new Hampshire. Maybe there might be there might be there might be 01:15:08.120 --> 01:15:09.660 Let me know how we can help 01:15:10.080 --> 01:15:12.640 I'm supportive, man. I'm glad you got the right mindset 01:15:12.640 --> 01:15:16.660 You have great events and you have a lot of life-changing 01:15:17.440 --> 01:15:19.380 presentations and confirmation of 01:15:19.970 --> 01:15:27.160 Truth that people are feeling and they get to experience it. It's awesome. Anarca. Poco anarca. Poco 20 27 01:15:27.160 --> 01:15:33.660 Be a comment keeps getting better. Jeff Burwick. Thank you very much. Jeff. It's been a pleasure, man 01:15:34.320 --> 01:15:37.060 Always a pleasure any thank you. All right. Peace brother