WEBVTT 00:02.900 --> 00:12.200 On December 1, 1935, Mrs. William Starkwell, the wife of a New Jersey handyman, gives birth to her first and only child. 00:12.900 --> 00:18.740 It is a boy, and they name it Virgil. He is an exceptionally cute baby with a sweet disposition. 00:19.900 --> 00:29.200 Before he is 25 years old, he will be wanted by police in six states for assault, armed robbery, and illegal possession of a wart. 00:30.040 --> 00:40.500 Growing up in a slum neighborhood where the crime rate is amongst the highest in the nation is not easy, particularly for Virgil, who is small and frail compared to the other children. 01:08.660 --> 01:14.940 Will attend this school, where he scores well on an IQ test, although his behavior disturbs the teachers. 01:16.360 --> 01:20.600 We interviewed Mrs. Dorothy Lowry, a school teacher who remembered Virgil. 01:20.600 --> 01:30.960 I remember one time he stole a fountain pen. I didn't want to embarrass him, so you know teachers have ways of doing things, so I said to the class, 01:31.520 --> 01:37.160 we will all close our eyes, and will the one who took the pen please return it. 01:38.140 --> 01:47.300 Well, while our eyes were closed, he returned the pen, but he took the opportunity of feeling all the girls. 01:50.020 --> 01:51.480 Can I say feel? 01:52.600 --> 01:57.380 Spending most of his time in the streets, Virgil takes to crime at an early age. 01:59.520 --> 02:05.440 He is an immediate failure, and barely manages to escape with a gumball machine stuck on his hand. 02:08.520 --> 02:14.060 With both parents working to make ends meet, Virgil becomes closest to his grandfather. 02:14.760 --> 02:19.780 A 60-year-old German immigrant who takes the boy to movies and baseball games. 02:20.420 --> 02:26.980 Then tragedy strikes. At a Washington senator's game, Virgil's grandfather is struck in the head by a foul ball. 02:28.220 --> 02:33.300 The blow causes permanent injury to his mind, and he becomes convinced he is Kaiser Wilhelm. 02:33.860 --> 02:37.740 Here are some rare photos of him with other patients on the sanatorium grounds. 02:41.540 --> 02:48.800 When he is 15 years old, amidst the violence and poverty of the slums, Virgil receives a cello as a gift. 02:52.400 --> 02:58.620 He is fascinated by the instrument, and for the first time in the Starkwell house, music is heard. 03:07.150 --> 03:10.750 We spoke to Mr. Torgman, his first and only cello teacher. 03:10.750 --> 03:17.670 And there is not very much to tell because his cello playing was just terrible. 03:18.910 --> 03:35.590 He had no idea about tone production. He would just saw it back and forth, just scratched the instrument to such a point that it would drive everyone to listen to it, absolutely insane. 03:35.590 --> 03:56.020 He had no conception of the instrument. He was blowing into it. He loved his cello, and I think he stole to pay for his lessons, but he would not apply himself one Yorta. 03:59.080 --> 04:07.120 Virgil steals to pay for cello lessons, and although he does not achieve greatness on the instrument, he is soon good enough to play in a local band. 04:07.120 --> 05:12.960 And Virgil soon learns the facts of life. Seeing Virgil is lonely and confused. Unable to concentrate in school, he has long since dropped out. 05:13.980 --> 05:20.580 He wants nothing more than to belong, if only to a street gang. It is here he thinks he will prove his manhood. 05:26.410 --> 05:31.610 Instant economic pressure. Virgil turns to the local pool hall as a means of making a living. 05:32.210 --> 06:12.900 I'm going to be a pool hustler, he tells his friends. Tries to join the Navy, but is psychologically unfit. 06:13.520 --> 06:20.600 That looks to me like two elephants making love to a men's glee club. 06:21.800 --> 06:26.560 Mr. T.S. Foster, Virgil's first probation officer remembers him vividly. 06:26.880 --> 06:33.040 He was a trustworthy kind of person. I mean, you had to remember certainty of secrecy that he had? 06:33.040 --> 06:33.720 Like what? 06:36.040 --> 06:47.600 Well, like not always telling the truth. He didn't always tell the truth. Sometimes he exaggerated the truth. 06:49.840 --> 06:58.180 Sometimes he, you know, just plain lies. He does have a criminal record, yes, but that doesn't mean that the boy was all bad. 06:59.260 --> 07:04.020 Unable to fit in with any aspect of his environment, Virgil strikes out on his own. 07:04.460 --> 09:42.670 He had some light on this period of his life. We spoke with his father and mother. 09:43.430 --> 09:47.010 They are ashamed of their son's criminal record and so wear disguises. 09:47.830 --> 09:49.590 He was a good boy. He was old. 09:49.650 --> 09:55.010 Oh, come on. If he was a good boy, why are we wearing these? He's rotten. He's a gangster. 09:55.170 --> 09:56.670 Oh, oh, oh, this is what he is. 09:57.390 --> 10:00.590 He was, he was so bright and he was so talented. 10:00.610 --> 10:01.790 Well, bright and talented. 10:01.810 --> 10:02.690 And he loved music. 10:02.790 --> 10:09.430 He was an atheist. I tried to be God into him, but it was too tough. 10:09.530 --> 10:15.310 He was trying to get away from us and be independent and make his own life and be a human being on his own. 10:15.450 --> 10:17.090 I mean, you're a very dominating person. 10:17.350 --> 10:17.470 What? 10:18.070 --> 10:20.370 You are. And he was trying to find himself. 10:20.610 --> 10:24.190 Me? I'm, all right. Let's, look, I'll talk to you later about the whole thing. 10:24.190 --> 10:24.870 What do you mean later? 10:25.570 --> 10:27.830 Vowing that he will never serve his full term, 10:28.330 --> 10:32.210 Virgil plans an elaborate escape using a bar of soap and some shoe polish. 10:53.480 --> 10:54.660 Take me to the infirmary. 10:55.260 --> 10:55.760 What's the matter? 10:56.180 --> 10:57.140 Don't ask. 11:32.650 --> 11:34.390 After the escape is dealt with harshly, 11:35.010 --> 11:37.410 his sentence is extended an additional two years. 11:38.430 --> 11:41.350 1956 is a happy-go-lucky year for most people. 12:03.620 --> 12:05.220 These none of it from his tiny cell. 12:06.020 --> 12:10.420 He marks time by reading until one day a new opportunity arises. 12:10.420 --> 12:13.500 We need volunteers for an experiment. 12:14.800 --> 12:18.640 The doctors want someone to be inoculated with the new vaccine. 12:20.000 --> 12:22.480 It's never been tried on humans before, 12:22.480 --> 12:25.740 so we don't know what the side effects may be. 12:27.680 --> 12:31.040 To be honest, you'll be taken a chance. 12:32.780 --> 12:35.480 As reward, there's a parole. 12:36.940 --> 12:40.540 I'm sure there are some among you brave enough to take the risk. 12:41.040 --> 12:44.980 With parole as inducement, Virgil submits to the vaccine test. 12:45.600 --> 12:49.020 It is a success, except for one temporary side effect. 12:49.500 --> 12:51.920 For several hours, he is turned into a rabbi. 12:52.340 --> 12:57.640 And so, the reason we celebrate the Passover holidays 12:58.640 --> 13:03.140 by eating matzo is to commemorate the time 13:03.140 --> 13:09.260 that Moses led the children of Israel from Egypt. 13:10.020 --> 13:25.600 He has so many good qualities. 13:26.700 --> 13:28.240 Name, name, name. 13:28.440 --> 13:30.980 He had all sorts of mechanical abilities. 13:31.360 --> 13:32.340 He was artistic. 13:33.220 --> 13:35.300 Do you remember the painting he did for you on your birthday? 13:35.300 --> 13:36.900 He used to be what he was. 13:37.640 --> 13:40.740 I used to and try to teach him about God. 13:40.940 --> 13:41.840 Would he listen? No. 13:42.780 --> 13:45.060 Virgil leaves prison apprehensive, 13:45.060 --> 13:48.040 but with some hope that he can begin a new life. 13:48.640 --> 13:51.460 Instead, he finds a world difficult to cope with. 13:52.120 --> 13:56.000 For shame to go home, he rents a cheap room in a strange city. 15:30.020 --> 15:32.780 Virgil tries to support himself with small crimes. 15:33.520 --> 15:35.780 Here, he attempts to rob a local pet shop. 16:22.850 --> 16:25.290 I hope you haven't been watching me. I'm not very good. 16:25.890 --> 16:26.210 Oh. 16:27.910 --> 16:31.070 I was strolling down here just now 16:31.070 --> 16:32.990 and I noticed that you were drawing something 16:32.990 --> 16:34.090 and I thought that I would... 16:34.090 --> 16:35.490 You can look at it if you want to. 16:35.910 --> 16:36.970 It's not very good. 16:37.130 --> 16:38.950 Oh, I wouldn't say that. 16:39.730 --> 16:42.150 I think that's wonderful. 16:44.970 --> 16:46.190 It's not very good. 16:46.930 --> 16:49.930 Well, I think that's very good, actually. 16:50.190 --> 16:52.910 I would have... I think you could probably make cash. 16:52.990 --> 16:53.610 Are you an artist? 16:54.150 --> 16:57.270 No. No, of course I'm not an artist. 16:57.770 --> 17:00.310 No? Well, what do you do? 17:00.850 --> 17:01.630 I'm a laundress. 17:02.230 --> 17:02.790 Laundress? 17:05.170 --> 17:05.730 I... 17:05.730 --> 17:06.110 Laundry? 17:06.530 --> 17:08.530 Yeah, I wash clothes. 17:13.720 --> 17:14.160 No, it isn't. 17:14.880 --> 17:17.120 I like it, but it's not particularly nice. 17:18.260 --> 17:19.100 What's your name? 17:19.780 --> 17:20.100 Louise. 17:21.820 --> 17:22.540 It's yours. 17:22.780 --> 17:23.320 Virgil. 17:23.800 --> 17:25.140 Stockwell. Virgil Stockwell. 17:25.420 --> 17:26.020 What do you do? 17:26.800 --> 17:27.480 What do I do? 17:28.520 --> 17:28.960 What do I do? 17:30.260 --> 17:32.040 Um, I'm a... 17:32.700 --> 17:33.440 I'm a cello. 17:34.140 --> 17:35.560 Oh, that's... that's fantastic. 17:35.660 --> 17:36.560 Yes, I'm a cellist. 17:37.880 --> 17:39.020 That's a wonderful job. 17:39.520 --> 17:40.440 Are you a cello-monic? 17:40.820 --> 17:41.740 Yes, I am, actually. 17:42.340 --> 17:42.960 Oh, that's fantastic. 17:43.500 --> 17:44.500 Yes, I'm a cello-monic. 17:45.440 --> 17:47.300 Quite a good group. 17:47.720 --> 17:50.140 Yeah, well, I dress like this, because I'm just... 17:50.600 --> 17:51.260 working out. 17:51.420 --> 17:53.020 Say, if you want to, uh... 17:53.460 --> 17:55.220 Can I just even go for a walk at all? 17:55.660 --> 17:56.000 Okay. 17:58.040 --> 17:58.760 I, uh... 17:58.760 --> 18:00.940 I know I was in love, but... 18:00.940 --> 18:02.440 for first of all, I was very nauseous. 18:02.440 --> 18:05.540 You know, I never met such a pretty girl, and, uh... 18:05.540 --> 18:08.580 I guess I'm sensitive, because, you know, real beauty 18:08.580 --> 18:10.460 makes me want to, uh, gag. 18:11.500 --> 18:13.300 Plus, I don't know how to act with girls. 18:13.420 --> 18:15.740 You know, I'm shy, and I'm just nervous around women. 18:15.980 --> 18:17.440 I have a tendency to dribble. 18:18.720 --> 18:19.520 And, um... 18:19.520 --> 18:22.200 You know, the only girl that I had known was a girl 18:22.200 --> 18:24.820 in my neighborhood, and, uh... 18:24.820 --> 18:26.060 who was not an attractive girl. 18:26.260 --> 18:29.800 I used to make obscene phone calls to her collect, 18:29.800 --> 18:33.040 and, you know, she used to accept the charges all the time. 18:33.320 --> 18:34.140 Nothing ever happened. 18:34.780 --> 18:36.240 And here I'm lying through my teeth. 18:36.440 --> 18:40.520 I mean, I can't tell Louise that I was in jail, 18:40.540 --> 18:42.200 and that I robbed and steal, 18:42.300 --> 18:44.140 and never did an honest day's work in my life, 18:44.220 --> 18:47.060 because, you know, a lot of people hold those things against you. 18:47.940 --> 18:48.800 But she was so sweet. 18:49.240 --> 18:52.800 We just walked in the park, and I was so touched by her that... 18:53.360 --> 18:55.420 I don't know, after 15 minutes, I wanted to marry her. 18:55.940 --> 18:58.500 And after a half hour, I completely gave up the idea 18:58.500 --> 18:59.400 of snatching her purse. 19:00.200 --> 19:03.300 I wanted to tell her, actually, that I wasn't with the Philharmonic, 19:03.360 --> 19:05.080 but she was so impressed by it. 19:05.820 --> 19:08.120 She asked me some questions about Mozart, 19:08.120 --> 19:10.160 and she got suspicious, because for a minute, 19:10.280 --> 19:11.320 I couldn't place the name. 19:12.520 --> 19:14.080 I don't know any... 19:14.080 --> 19:15.540 When it comes to women in prison, 19:15.700 --> 19:18.420 I remember this psychiatrist asked me if I had a girl, 19:18.620 --> 19:19.280 and I said, no. 19:19.960 --> 19:22.240 And he said, well, do I think that sex is dirty? 19:22.600 --> 19:24.840 And I said, it is if you're doing it right. 19:25.680 --> 19:28.340 All I know is my heart was really pounding, 19:28.520 --> 19:30.980 and I felt a funny tingling all over. 19:31.420 --> 19:34.040 You know, and I don't know, I was either in love 19:34.040 --> 19:35.940 or I had smallpox. 19:49.160 --> 19:49.880 Have dinner tonight? 19:50.320 --> 19:50.580 Sure. 22:32.090 --> 22:33.410 I'm embarrassed to see what I... 22:38.500 --> 22:39.800 That's a pretty hat. 22:41.060 --> 22:41.940 Thank you. 22:42.320 --> 22:43.620 Yeah, I see them all over town. 22:44.340 --> 22:44.860 Do you? 22:45.060 --> 22:45.280 Mm-hmm. 22:45.580 --> 22:46.480 You know, feather in the white. 22:48.560 --> 22:49.900 I haven't seen anything. 22:50.100 --> 22:51.520 Oh, yeah, they're on sale downtown. 22:51.520 --> 22:53.120 I passed them. 22:53.200 --> 22:54.220 I was walking around the streets. 22:54.480 --> 22:55.440 I passed them. 22:55.820 --> 22:58.260 I have millions of them in that one of those bins. 22:58.860 --> 23:30.510 You know, we went for a walk. 23:30.870 --> 23:33.850 I asked her for a lock of her hair, you know, 23:34.070 --> 23:35.990 and we didn't have a scissors, 23:36.150 --> 23:37.790 so I tried pulling it out. 23:38.470 --> 23:39.690 And she was a good sport, I tell you. 23:39.750 --> 23:40.250 She was... 23:40.250 --> 23:42.050 You know, when she got excited, she stuttered. 23:43.350 --> 23:43.670 I... 23:43.670 --> 23:45.250 She was so cute that way. 23:45.270 --> 23:46.450 I like a girl who stutters, you know. 23:47.130 --> 23:49.990 They turn red, and they're always gasping for breath. 23:49.990 --> 23:51.350 You know, it's really sweet-looking. 23:52.050 --> 23:53.890 And she, um... 23:53.890 --> 23:55.110 She was an expert on laundry, you know. 23:55.250 --> 23:56.430 She was fantastic. 23:57.010 --> 23:59.070 I offered to, uh, to let her do my shorts, 23:59.310 --> 24:01.250 and she was very moved by that, I think. 24:01.730 --> 24:02.930 She just knew everything about undo. 24:03.030 --> 24:05.350 I never saw anybody knew so much about socks and T-shirts. 24:06.210 --> 24:09.230 She was some kind of, you know, genius that way. 24:33.970 --> 24:35.630 Virgil sees Louise more frequently. 24:36.490 --> 24:38.650 When she questions him about his cello playing, 24:39.010 --> 24:40.110 he avoids the subject. 24:41.930 --> 24:43.990 In order to better understand Louise, 24:44.650 --> 24:46.330 let us examine her background briefly. 24:47.950 --> 24:51.330 Adopted at age two from a cruel and impoverished orphanage 24:51.330 --> 24:53.330 by a career military man and his wife, 24:54.090 --> 24:56.770 she was subjected to an upbringing of extreme discipline, 24:57.250 --> 24:58.990 which left her shy and withdrawn. 25:00.070 --> 25:02.930 Never having a real home, she lived on army bases, 25:03.430 --> 25:06.050 while her father pursued a brilliant military career 25:06.050 --> 25:09.710 that after 30 years catapulted him to the rank of corporal. 25:10.590 --> 25:13.870 Her mother, an alcoholic, turns to religion for comfort 25:13.870 --> 25:15.530 and quickly becomes a fanatic. 25:16.270 --> 25:19.590 She responds to Louise's need for love by beating the child 25:19.590 --> 25:22.150 and claims to have conversations with God 25:22.470 --> 25:25.490 in which they discuss salvation and interior decorating. 25:27.550 --> 25:31.110 Destitute and in love, Virgil attempts to change his life 25:31.110 --> 25:32.330 with one bold stroke. 25:33.870 --> 26:04.450 Can't you read that? 26:05.090 --> 26:07.110 I can't read this. What's this? 26:07.110 --> 26:08.450 Act natural? 26:10.330 --> 26:13.190 No, it's just, please put $50,000 into this bag 26:13.190 --> 26:13.850 and act natural. 26:14.030 --> 26:15.090 It does say act natural. 26:15.490 --> 26:20.070 Uh, so I am pointing a gun at you. 26:21.830 --> 26:24.150 That looks like a gun. That doesn't look like a gun. 26:24.490 --> 26:25.030 No, it's a gun. 26:25.470 --> 26:27.270 No, that's a gun. That's a bee. 26:27.750 --> 26:30.570 No, see, that's an N. It's a G-U-N. It's a gun. 26:32.670 --> 26:34.510 George, would you step over here a moment, please? 26:35.750 --> 26:37.130 What does this say? 26:39.410 --> 26:44.950 Please put $50,000 into this bag and act natural. 26:45.210 --> 26:46.030 What's that? Act. 26:46.570 --> 26:49.090 Does this look like a gun? 26:51.570 --> 26:52.490 Gun. See? 26:53.210 --> 26:54.250 But what's that mean? 26:54.570 --> 26:58.430 Act. Act natural. Please put $50,000 into this bag. 26:58.690 --> 26:59.550 Act natural. 27:00.150 --> 27:03.150 Oh, I see. This is a holder. 27:03.150 --> 27:03.670 Yes. 27:04.490 --> 27:05.450 May I see your gun? 27:11.370 --> 27:14.330 You'll have to have this note initialed by one of our vice presidents 27:14.330 --> 27:15.770 before I can give you any money. 27:17.110 --> 27:18.190 See, he's able to rush. 27:18.510 --> 27:19.750 What? I'm able to rush. 27:20.170 --> 27:21.510 I'm sorry, but that's our policy. 27:27.080 --> 27:27.800 In the gray suit. 27:29.300 --> 27:32.660 That's G-U-N. I'm pointing a gun at you. 27:33.420 --> 27:33.960 That's a bee. That's a gun. 27:33.960 --> 27:35.520 That's G-U-N. That's a bee. That's a gun. 27:35.720 --> 27:37.080 No, excuse me. That's an N. 27:37.940 --> 27:38.420 Miss Frank. 27:38.840 --> 27:40.900 I am pointing a gun at you. 27:41.760 --> 27:43.600 Act natural. What is act? 27:43.860 --> 27:44.340 That's act. 27:44.560 --> 27:46.720 Oh, it couldn't be. That's a plain bee. 27:46.820 --> 27:48.000 No, no, no, no. I'm afraid not. 27:48.280 --> 27:50.880 That's act natural. I'm pointing a gun at you. 27:51.040 --> 27:51.600 Mr. Miller. 27:51.920 --> 27:54.780 I am pointing a gup. 27:55.420 --> 27:56.980 No, that's gun. That's G-U-N. 27:57.200 --> 27:58.660 That's gun. I am pointing a gun at you. 27:58.840 --> 28:01.160 It looks like a bee, but it's an N. 28:01.160 --> 28:04.860 Of course it is. 28:05.100 --> 28:05.740 It's a gun. 28:05.820 --> 28:06.280 No, no, it isn't. 28:07.680 --> 28:08.840 It is a gun. 28:08.840 --> 28:09.580 It has to be a gun. 28:10.840 --> 28:12.680 I'm sorry, but I just... 28:12.680 --> 28:14.940 We were there in the window, and it's gunned. 28:15.160 --> 28:16.680 No, no, I wouldn't... 28:19.900 --> 28:21.580 Hello, Louise. 28:22.440 --> 28:25.000 Uh, listen, I can't make our date today. 28:25.460 --> 28:27.400 I've got to go up to Boston and give a concert. 28:28.780 --> 28:32.200 Well, look, why don't I give you a call in about, um... 28:32.200 --> 28:33.300 About 10 years. 28:41.870 --> 28:44.690 Virgil Starquell is apprehended in the act of bank robbery. 28:44.690 --> 28:47.630 He has given 10 years in the state's strictest 28:47.630 --> 28:49.090 maximum security prison. 28:49.930 --> 28:52.450 It is here that he mingles with hardened criminals 28:52.450 --> 28:53.550 for the first time. 29:03.560 --> 29:05.740 The prison has not been built that can hold me. 29:06.200 --> 29:07.480 Virgil tells another inmate, 29:08.040 --> 29:09.580 and I'll get out of this one if it means 29:09.580 --> 29:11.240 spending my entire life here. 29:29.370 --> 29:30.690 According to what is in the armadillo's... 29:30.690 --> 29:33.450 You know, I... I knew... 29:33.450 --> 29:36.450 Would you let a man say a word or two? 29:37.110 --> 29:39.150 I knew there was a day when I said, 29:39.150 --> 29:40.790 this kid is rotten. 29:41.350 --> 29:43.210 You know the expression of rotten kid? 29:43.730 --> 29:44.630 That's what this kid is. 29:44.950 --> 29:46.510 Whose jeans did he have? 29:46.850 --> 29:47.410 What jeans? 29:47.550 --> 29:48.030 I'm chromosome. 29:48.330 --> 29:48.930 What jeans? 29:49.410 --> 29:50.230 What, what, what? 29:50.350 --> 29:52.130 Don't talk fancy in front of the man, 29:52.130 --> 29:54.070 because, you know, you make an impression. 29:55.770 --> 29:58.010 The time passes slowly for Virgil. 29:58.210 --> 30:01.030 He works hard and tries to adjust to prison life. 30:01.830 --> 30:03.250 He becomes a model prisoner. 30:03.870 --> 30:05.110 He's put to work in the laundry. 32:05.520 --> 32:07.080 You don't mind that I came to see you, do you? 32:07.080 --> 32:09.680 No, I'm happy to see you. 32:10.300 --> 32:11.500 How did you find out I was here? 32:12.660 --> 32:14.020 I called up your landlady. 32:14.420 --> 32:15.440 She told me where you were. 32:16.280 --> 32:18.080 She said that... 32:19.480 --> 32:21.340 Virgil, did you rob a bank? 32:22.400 --> 32:24.040 I did not rob a bank. 32:24.100 --> 32:25.900 If I had robbed a bank, everything would be great. 32:26.460 --> 32:27.160 Well, what did you do? 32:27.160 --> 32:29.340 I tried to rob a bank, is what happened, 32:29.520 --> 32:31.540 and they got me. 32:31.960 --> 32:33.020 I misspelled a note. 32:35.340 --> 32:35.820 Virgil. 32:37.620 --> 32:38.100 Virgil. 32:38.100 --> 32:38.660 Can you bank? 32:39.700 --> 32:49.770 Virgil, you don't... 32:49.770 --> 32:50.970 You're allergic to chocolate. 32:51.310 --> 32:53.010 I need a cake with a gun in it. 32:53.410 --> 32:54.510 I'll bake you a cake. 32:54.710 --> 32:55.930 I won't put the gun in. 32:56.170 --> 32:57.790 I'll put a dozen chocolate chip cookies 32:57.790 --> 32:58.830 with a bullet in each. 33:00.890 --> 33:02.530 How long are you going to be here? 33:03.910 --> 33:05.570 Oh, well, um, 33:06.370 --> 33:10.310 I estimate in the neighborhood of, um... 33:10.310 --> 33:11.910 What's today? On Monday? 33:12.850 --> 33:14.250 Uh, Tuesday, Wednesday? 33:15.070 --> 33:15.490 Extra? 33:15.930 --> 33:16.330 Ten years. 33:17.830 --> 33:18.490 In fact, yeah. 33:20.610 --> 33:23.310 Is it possible that you could wait for me? 33:23.790 --> 33:25.390 Yes, if you want me to. 33:28.070 --> 33:30.070 With Louise to inspire him, 33:30.570 --> 33:32.970 Virgil works hard and becomes more optimistic. 33:33.850 --> 33:36.270 She comes frequently for the next few months. 33:39.430 --> 33:41.310 He complains about the food, 33:41.810 --> 33:43.450 and she brings him home-cooked meals. 33:52.850 --> 33:54.390 Louise's impact on Virgil 33:54.390 --> 33:56.610 is discussed here by Dr. Julius Epstein, 33:57.270 --> 34:00.250 a one-time prison psychiatrist who recalls Virgil. 34:01.050 --> 34:02.810 Well, Louise meant a great deal to Virgil. 34:02.950 --> 34:04.330 From a psychiatric point of view. 34:05.070 --> 34:07.670 His love for her was the healthiest thing in his life. 34:08.190 --> 34:10.890 It was genuine and clean. 34:11.810 --> 34:13.410 Not like some patients, I know. 34:15.250 --> 34:16.670 She ain't gonna wait for Virgil. 34:17.290 --> 34:19.590 They think they can, but they never do. 34:20.690 --> 34:24.030 You know, I've become eligible for parole in a year and a half. 34:24.150 --> 34:24.850 Yeah, well, that's nice. 34:25.830 --> 34:27.550 With any luck, maybe two or three years, 34:27.650 --> 34:28.250 you'll get out of here, huh? 34:28.970 --> 34:29.770 Could be a lot shorter. 34:32.170 --> 34:32.690 What do you mean? 34:33.230 --> 34:35.650 He means we've got this proposition we want to talk over with you. 34:37.170 --> 34:38.170 What kind of proposition? 34:38.870 --> 34:41.610 Like, next week, five of us are gonna make it out of here. 34:41.610 --> 34:42.950 Now, we need an extra man. 34:44.330 --> 34:45.170 It's all set. 34:45.390 --> 34:47.590 By next week, we could be miles away from this zoo. 34:48.370 --> 34:50.510 You guys gotta be kidding. We never get out of here. 34:50.570 --> 34:51.130 They kill us. 34:52.570 --> 34:54.650 We got out of rougher places than this. 34:54.910 --> 34:56.290 Hey, look, why don't you just think about it, huh? 34:57.770 --> 34:59.910 Ain't no broad gonna wait around for years for you. 35:00.770 --> 35:02.430 No matter what she tells you in that visiting hall. 35:06.470 --> 35:10.050 Well, I think the conflict in this personality disorder 35:10.050 --> 35:11.770 started from his formative years. 35:12.510 --> 35:16.130 I think that gave evidence in his choice of the cello. 35:16.570 --> 35:18.610 For instance, studying the cello at the age of six, 35:18.870 --> 35:21.130 which is just coming out of the formative years, 35:21.210 --> 35:22.870 but the conflict is there within the choice 35:22.870 --> 35:27.070 because it's generally assumed that the cello is a phallic symbol. 35:27.570 --> 35:32.070 I mean, with the grasp and what the lower structural forms 35:32.070 --> 35:33.450 are certainly feminine. 35:34.170 --> 35:35.230 If anything, motherly. 35:36.450 --> 35:40.390 In fact, the utilization of the bow, I would imagine, 35:40.550 --> 35:44.270 is the sublimation of stroking a torso. 35:45.290 --> 35:48.110 So between the grasping of the phallic 35:48.110 --> 35:51.210 and the stroking of the torso would create, 35:51.430 --> 35:54.070 I would imagine, great conflict even at the age of six. 36:05.110 --> 36:07.470 Virgil's stark well becomes part of an escape plot. 36:08.050 --> 36:10.270 His every move becomes tense and strained. 36:47.330 --> 36:48.630 The guards on our floor with us 36:48.630 --> 36:49.950 will be ready in case there's some trouble. 36:49.950 --> 36:52.990 I still don't understand how we're gonna get past the main tower. 36:53.450 --> 36:54.550 We're gonna be dressed as guards. 36:55.250 --> 36:56.590 That's why Friday at noon. 36:57.250 --> 36:58.250 Because you work in a laundry. 36:59.070 --> 37:00.330 You're gonna steal the guards' underwear. 37:01.310 --> 37:01.690 What? 37:02.310 --> 37:04.710 Yes, we already got some uniforms dashed in the dark room. 37:05.230 --> 37:05.830 I don't understand. 37:06.030 --> 37:06.910 If you got the guards' uniforms, 37:07.170 --> 37:07.970 what do you need their underwear? 37:08.490 --> 37:10.630 We wanna do this as realistically as possible. 37:11.070 --> 37:12.550 I'm known for my detail work. 37:54.100 --> 37:55.680 Sir, we can't find our underwear. 37:56.200 --> 37:57.140 I think something's up. 37:57.140 --> 38:00.220 We better keep our eyes open. 38:44.220 --> 38:46.260 Next convict and one of the leaders of the break 38:46.260 --> 38:48.180 describes that fateful day. 38:48.800 --> 38:51.620 I told all the other guys that the break was off. 38:52.080 --> 38:53.480 But I forgot to tell Virgil. 38:55.260 --> 38:56.800 I don't know why I forgot. 38:58.600 --> 39:00.100 Nobody ever told him. 40:08.000 --> 40:09.580 There's a break in the north cell block. 40:09.980 --> 40:11.080 Notify the warden immediately. 40:11.660 --> 42:51.530 The happiest moment of my life, 42:51.810 --> 42:54.050 I just wish my parents could have been there. 42:54.050 --> 42:55.870 We weren't aware of this. 42:55.890 --> 42:57.290 Am I right? Am I right? 42:57.490 --> 42:58.370 You know, say, be honest. 42:58.650 --> 43:00.070 He turned out to be... 43:06.920 --> 43:07.860 These are small savings. 43:08.480 --> 43:10.340 They move into a cheaply furnished flat. 43:16.070 --> 43:17.570 His innocent pictures were taken. 43:18.110 --> 43:21.030 They were both unaware of the incredible series of events 43:21.030 --> 43:21.850 that were to come. 45:27.970 --> 45:31.090 He secures a little work selling encyclopedias door to door. 45:31.290 --> 45:33.430 But the job proves too much for him. 45:34.730 --> 45:36.770 He is forced to take to the streets. 45:37.390 --> 45:40.310 And for a while, he earns a meager living selling meagres. 45:43.990 --> 45:45.170 We're going to have a baby. 45:47.930 --> 45:48.710 Get out of here. 45:49.110 --> 45:51.590 No. No, we're going to have a baby. 45:51.730 --> 45:53.350 I went to the doctor. We're going to have a baby. 45:54.670 --> 45:55.990 That's my present for Christmas. 45:59.290 --> 46:00.670 Well, all I needed was a tie. 46:05.940 --> 46:06.920 I don't believe it. 46:07.560 --> 46:08.200 Virgil, really. 46:08.380 --> 46:09.180 Well, how did it happen? 46:10.480 --> 46:11.900 What do you mean, how did it happen? 46:12.060 --> 46:13.520 Well, I'm... 46:13.520 --> 46:15.520 You mean because... 46:17.820 --> 46:20.520 At night, the two of us... 46:21.240 --> 46:23.600 And that's what happened. 46:26.260 --> 46:29.240 In the spring, Virgil and Louise are blessed with a son. 46:30.040 --> 46:33.900 They name the boy Jonathan Ralph Starquo after Virgil's mother. 46:34.660 --> 46:56.420 Move to a new state and try to start over. 46:57.060 --> 46:59.140 Virgil has the usual trouble finding work. 46:59.920 --> 47:02.460 Finally, he hears of an opening in an insurance office 47:02.460 --> 47:04.300 and is back against the wall. 47:04.720 --> 47:06.820 He attempts to lie his way into the job. 47:11.680 --> 47:19.540 Please sit down. Name, please. 47:21.620 --> 47:22.840 John Q. Public. 47:24.160 --> 47:25.700 It's P-U-B-L-I-C. 47:27.740 --> 47:32.420 Mr. Public, have you had any experience working in an office before? 47:33.300 --> 47:33.980 Yes, I have. 47:35.400 --> 47:37.560 What kind of office was it? 47:38.840 --> 47:39.400 Rectangular. 47:41.560 --> 47:47.080 Have you ever had any experience in running a high-speed digital electronic computer? 47:48.620 --> 47:49.500 Yes, I have. 47:51.700 --> 47:52.180 Where? 47:57.730 --> 47:58.810 What does your aunt do? 48:00.790 --> 48:01.970 I can't recall. 48:02.590 --> 48:04.550 You said before you worked in an office. 48:05.510 --> 48:07.290 Did you deal in products or services? 48:07.710 --> 48:07.950 Products. 48:09.950 --> 48:12.130 Is this something found in the home? 48:12.130 --> 48:15.190 No, it's not. It's one down and nine to go. 48:16.490 --> 48:17.990 Is this product edible? 48:18.730 --> 48:20.550 No, I'm afraid it wasn't. 48:21.150 --> 48:23.330 I think our time has run out, 48:23.530 --> 48:25.950 and I'm sorry to say you haven't guessed my occupation, 48:26.210 --> 48:29.210 so I'm going to flip all the cards and tell you exactly what I used to do. 48:29.750 --> 48:31.770 I used to manufacture escalator shoes 48:31.770 --> 48:34.510 for people who were nauseous in elevator shoes. 48:35.250 --> 48:38.010 I'm sorry you didn't actually get my occupation, 48:38.010 --> 48:40.130 but you did win $10, 48:40.650 --> 48:42.850 and I want to thank you very much. 48:42.970 --> 48:44.150 Better luck next time. 48:44.470 --> 48:45.270 You're a good sport. 48:46.450 --> 48:48.810 Hiding his past from his fellow employees, 48:49.470 --> 48:52.930 Virgil does well at his first decent job, the mailroom. 48:54.010 --> 48:55.930 His past catches up with him, however, 48:56.370 --> 48:59.110 as a fellow employee learns of his criminal record. 48:59.490 --> 49:01.090 What are you doing for dinner, Mr. Public? 49:01.630 --> 49:04.050 Oh, Miss Blair, I'm having dinner with my wife. Why? 49:04.570 --> 49:06.030 We're having dinner, Mr. Public. 49:06.670 --> 49:08.650 Oh, no, I said I was having dinner with my wife. 49:09.530 --> 49:11.430 I found this picture in a magazine. 49:12.710 --> 49:14.990 One word for me, and you're back in prison. 49:15.870 --> 49:16.290 Okay? 49:17.350 --> 49:18.430 What do you feel like, either? 49:19.390 --> 49:22.470 Virgil Stark well becomes the victim of a blackmail plot. 49:23.030 --> 49:25.630 Miss Blair, confident of her power to expose him, 49:25.730 --> 49:27.910 begins making small demands for money. 49:28.550 --> 49:30.570 These increase as time goes on. 49:31.570 --> 49:33.930 Everything that he holds dear to him is in jeopardy. 49:33.930 --> 49:37.310 His life and family hang on the whim of an unstable woman. 49:38.190 --> 49:39.430 He is driven to desperation, 49:40.250 --> 49:43.130 but with the responsibility of a wife and child to protect, 49:43.810 --> 49:46.550 Virgil Stark well contemplates murder. 49:47.190 --> 49:48.210 What would you like to drink? 49:49.690 --> 49:51.170 Oh, what do you have? 49:52.170 --> 49:55.430 How about some sherry? I have some very fine sherry. 50:05.200 --> 50:06.180 Do you heard your hand? 50:07.900 --> 50:08.380 Clumsy. 50:09.920 --> 50:11.360 I'll be right here. 50:14.880 --> 50:17.320 Disguising two sticks of dynamite as candles, 50:18.040 --> 50:20.040 he sends Miss Blair an anonymous gift. 50:24.300 --> 50:27.580 The plot fails, however, as he makes the dynamite too thick 50:27.580 --> 50:29.040 to fit into the candlesticks. 50:30.780 --> 50:33.080 Determined to rid himself of the blackmailer, 50:33.560 --> 50:35.620 he rents a car and attempts to run her over. 50:36.300 --> 51:12.490 There must be your imagination. 51:13.510 --> 51:14.610 Who'd try and kill you? 51:14.770 --> 51:16.590 I don't know. I have no enemies. 51:17.190 --> 51:18.670 You didn't tell anybody, did you? 51:18.870 --> 51:21.790 No. You can do the carving. 51:37.370 --> 51:38.650 Cut your ways. 51:39.670 --> 51:41.070 I mean, you eat like an animal. 51:41.390 --> 51:42.350 It's delicious, really. 51:42.930 --> 51:45.050 I'll get the salad dressing, we'll make a toast, 51:45.270 --> 51:47.830 and then you start on that turkey leg. 52:15.710 --> 52:18.050 I'm just creating the proper atmosphere, dear. 52:18.050 --> 52:19.870 I'm a sucker, Fred. 52:20.210 --> 52:21.330 Why don't you call up the turkey? 52:21.850 --> 52:23.170 Yes, of course, my darling. 52:24.910 --> 52:26.250 Someone sent these as a gift, 52:26.410 --> 52:28.650 but they were too big to use, so I shaved off the bottom. 52:34.870 --> 52:36.330 Enforcement agency's on his trail. 52:36.870 --> 52:38.750 Virgil takes his family and heads south. 52:39.430 --> 52:42.010 Here they manage to secure a cheap lodging temporarily. 52:45.210 --> 52:47.670 This was really a desperate time in my life. 52:47.890 --> 52:48.950 You know, we had no money. 52:49.310 --> 52:50.810 I tried mugging old ladies, 52:50.810 --> 52:53.730 but, uh, I got hit in the groin with a crutch. 52:54.670 --> 52:55.330 I don't know what to do. 52:55.410 --> 52:57.270 I tried counterfeiting for a while, you know. 52:57.750 --> 53:00.310 I just got the plates all fouled up and everything. 53:00.910 --> 53:02.990 Lincoln came out smoking a cigarette, 53:03.910 --> 53:06.310 and I, uh, I robbed a butcher shop. 53:06.390 --> 53:07.150 That was the best I could do. 53:07.230 --> 53:09.210 I got away with 116 veal cutlets, 53:09.750 --> 53:12.810 and I had to go out and rob a tremendous amount of breading. 53:25.620 --> 53:27.880 They're money gone, and with food scarce, 53:28.520 --> 53:30.520 the stark-wells live like hunted animals. 53:30.520 --> 54:06.520 You weren't very happy then. 54:07.140 --> 54:08.880 Oh, no, this was the low point in my existence. 54:09.140 --> 54:11.340 I was thinking of getting out of crime altogether, 54:11.600 --> 54:13.360 maybe becoming a singer or something. 54:13.980 --> 54:16.280 Must have been a very tough decision for you to make. 54:17.480 --> 54:19.460 Uh, yeah, it was, uh, it was really tough, 54:19.580 --> 54:20.980 but, uh, my family was starving, 54:20.980 --> 54:23.940 and I had, uh, I'd already filed for bankruptcy, you know. 54:24.440 --> 54:24.920 I see. 54:25.540 --> 54:27.780 Well, uh, what prompted you to go on? 54:28.400 --> 54:30.060 Oh, well, I came up with an idea for a robbery 54:30.060 --> 54:32.960 that was, uh, that was so fantastic and so brilliant 54:32.960 --> 54:35.740 that when it was over, it was considered a real work of art 54:35.740 --> 54:37.740 by all the guys in my cell block. 54:38.100 --> 54:39.300 They must have looked up to you. 54:40.340 --> 54:41.820 Well, you know, those guys are mugs. 54:45.420 --> 54:48.420 I, uh, am gonna rob a bank. 54:49.000 --> 54:50.820 Oh, no, Virgil, not again. 54:51.080 --> 54:52.740 Yes. I think so. 54:52.940 --> 54:54.900 I think that's our only way out of this mess 54:54.900 --> 54:58.700 is for me to, there's a little dinky bank in Ross County, 54:58.740 --> 55:00.420 and I think if I could get two or three good men, 55:00.760 --> 55:01.880 I could get in there and get it 55:01.880 --> 55:06.880 and we could go down to Mexico or up to Canada or, uh... 55:07.520 --> 55:09.100 But Virgil, what if you got killed? 55:09.320 --> 55:10.440 No, don't worry, nothing to worry about. 55:10.520 --> 55:11.280 I know how to use a gub. 55:11.660 --> 55:12.880 No, it's gun, Virgil. 55:12.900 --> 55:13.700 A gun? I'm sorry. 55:13.820 --> 55:14.500 Can I say gub again? 55:14.560 --> 55:14.820 Yes. 55:15.620 --> 55:32.250 I want to speak to you about a business proposition. 55:38.400 --> 55:39.360 It's a bank job. 55:41.560 --> 55:43.580 A couple of guys and myself are gonna get together 55:44.140 --> 55:45.420 about four weeks from now. 55:46.100 --> 55:47.560 A quarter of a million dollars. 55:47.800 --> 55:49.200 We walk in and take it like that. 55:49.940 --> 55:51.120 It's an easy job. 55:52.220 --> 55:54.640 I think we just pull up, take it. 56:02.020 --> 56:04.080 How long, uh... 56:04.700 --> 56:06.660 What, because I said the part about the bank, 56:06.800 --> 56:08.080 the bank is... 56:09.440 --> 56:09.920 You... 56:11.200 --> 56:12.160 You're looking... 56:12.160 --> 56:13.780 You guys are dressing alike again. 56:14.520 --> 56:15.980 I, uh... 56:15.980 --> 56:17.460 Yeah, I just... 56:17.460 --> 56:19.540 I just broke it myself. 56:20.500 --> 56:21.340 It's just... 56:21.340 --> 56:23.380 All the boys in the neighborhood went wrong. 56:23.440 --> 56:24.240 It wasn't his fault. 56:24.240 --> 56:27.160 We just didn't have time for a little working so hard. 56:27.340 --> 56:28.640 Would you like to see my stamp collection? 56:28.840 --> 56:31.780 I have a collection of stamps. 56:32.300 --> 56:34.440 First, he selects an appropriate bank. 56:35.820 --> 56:39.040 Next, he cases the bank by cleverly concealing a camera 56:39.040 --> 56:40.500 in an unsuspected place. 56:41.000 --> 56:51.130 It takes place. 56:51.810 --> 56:53.670 Among the ones chosen are some of the most 56:53.670 --> 56:55.210 sinister names in the underworld. 56:56.390 --> 56:57.090 William Hummers, 56:57.570 --> 56:59.450 wanted by the police for bank robbery, 56:59.910 --> 57:01.230 assault with a deadly weapon, 57:01.230 --> 57:04.550 murder, and getting naked in front of his in-laws. 57:07.590 --> 57:10.490 Frankie Wolf, wanted by federal authorities 57:10.490 --> 57:11.910 for dancing with a mailman. 57:14.650 --> 57:17.470 A.D. Armstrong, wanted all over the country 57:17.470 --> 57:20.790 for arson, robbery, assault with intent to kill, 57:21.310 --> 57:22.390 and marrying a horse. 57:22.830 --> 57:34.100 The Union Fidelity Bank. 57:35.600 --> 57:36.800 June 16th, 57:37.940 --> 57:38.880 10 a.m. 57:38.880 --> 57:41.760 What you're about to see are films of the Union Fidelity Bank. 57:42.320 --> 57:43.760 We're gonna see them just once. 57:44.340 --> 57:46.740 And to destroy the evidence, we're gonna eat the film. 57:47.660 --> 57:49.100 It'll be buffet style. 57:49.380 --> 57:51.040 You can just help yourself, take plates, 57:51.120 --> 57:53.400 this potato salad over there, and my wife made coffee. 57:54.180 --> 57:56.080 These films could save your lives. 57:56.580 --> 58:15.110 You'd have the gang over for meetings, 58:15.370 --> 58:19.290 and I'd put out little trays of pretzels and bullets. 58:21.450 --> 58:22.950 I had to. He's my husband. 58:22.950 --> 58:24.870 We got this film camera. 58:25.510 --> 58:27.610 We got lights. We got a truck. 58:28.750 --> 58:30.630 And the idea is, we pull up in front of the bank 58:30.630 --> 58:31.990 and we look like we're making a movie. 58:33.110 --> 58:34.210 We play the actors. 58:35.130 --> 58:36.710 Or we need somebody to be the director. 58:39.350 --> 58:41.410 Grudge, I got the perfect guy. 58:42.490 --> 58:45.950 An ex-con I did some time with by the name of, um... 58:47.370 --> 58:47.770 Fritz. 58:48.370 --> 58:49.490 I will be the director. 58:51.070 --> 58:54.190 I once was a film director many years ago 58:54.190 --> 58:55.810 before movies had sound. 58:56.410 --> 58:57.210 I worked with John Gilbert, 58:57.610 --> 58:59.530 wrote a Valentino with Ruth and Geerich. 58:59.690 --> 59:01.130 Ruth and Geerich were baseball players. 59:01.590 --> 59:02.750 I was also bad. 59:08.730 --> 59:12.730 The fools in Hollywood didn't recognize genius. 59:14.290 --> 59:18.970 But now I shall wear the uniform of the director once again. 59:19.610 --> 59:22.490 And you will be my actor. 59:22.490 --> 59:25.270 You will enter the bank and say, 59:25.710 --> 59:29.670 up with your hands, this is a stick-up, thereby announcing our theme, 59:31.030 --> 59:31.990 men's creed. 59:32.730 --> 59:34.610 Now say it and let me hear the line. 59:35.090 --> 59:36.570 Up with your hands. This is a stick-up. 59:36.750 --> 59:39.190 No, no, no. More feeling. Again now. 59:39.790 --> 59:43.210 Fritz, Fritz, this is a bank robbery, not a movie. 59:44.110 --> 59:45.770 Oh, yes. Of course. 59:46.250 --> 59:46.890 Oh, forgive me. 59:47.990 --> 59:50.670 I will be fine when the time comes. 59:51.290 --> 59:54.390 Thank you all. Everybody, take five. 01:00:10.550 --> 01:00:12.250 Don't tell me you're going to use the shower now. 01:00:13.090 --> 01:00:15.190 Virgil, why do you do this to me every morning? 01:00:15.350 --> 01:00:16.310 I just got in here. 01:00:16.570 --> 01:00:17.890 Well, I'm going to be late for the robbery. 01:00:18.870 --> 01:00:21.610 So you'll be five minutes late. They can start without me. 01:00:21.610 --> 01:00:23.410 They can't start without me. I'm the leader. 01:00:24.330 --> 01:00:25.590 I made you some coffee. 01:00:26.110 --> 01:00:31.310 Oh, Jesus. Every day I have trouble getting in the bathroom 01:00:31.310 --> 01:00:32.850 for crying out loud. 01:00:38.880 --> 01:00:39.720 What'd you say? 01:00:40.380 --> 01:00:42.480 I said, what shirt do you want to wear? 01:00:42.900 --> 01:00:44.500 I'm going to wear my light blue. 01:00:45.740 --> 01:00:49.360 No, you're not. It was dirty. I washed it last night. 01:00:49.460 --> 01:00:51.340 Why did you wash it? I was going to wear it today. 01:00:51.360 --> 01:00:52.800 I washed it because it was dirty. 01:00:53.160 --> 01:00:54.460 Well, so what? I'm just going to rob a bank. 01:00:54.460 --> 01:00:56.980 I happen to have ironed your beige shirt. Do you want to wear that? 01:00:57.060 --> 01:00:59.240 No, I can't wear a beige shirt to a bank robbery. 01:00:59.580 --> 01:01:01.400 Because it's light. I'll be an easy target. 01:01:01.780 --> 01:01:03.540 I think it's a perfectly good shirt to wear. 01:01:03.640 --> 01:01:05.100 No, it isn't a good shirt. It's beige. 01:01:05.360 --> 01:01:07.420 Well, who wears beige to a bank robbery? 01:01:07.420 --> 01:01:08.620 What are the other guys wearing? 01:01:08.740 --> 01:01:10.580 I don't know. For crying out loud. 01:01:10.580 --> 01:01:12.200 Well, why don't you call them up and ask them? 01:01:12.480 --> 01:01:15.880 Oh, nobody's going to be wearing beige to a bank robbery. 01:01:16.200 --> 01:01:17.160 It's in poor taste. 01:01:25.920 --> 01:01:27.420 June 16th, 9 a.m. 01:01:27.800 --> 01:01:29.380 The days of planning are over. 01:01:30.080 --> 01:01:32.560 Virgil and his accomplices depart from his hideout 01:01:32.560 --> 01:01:34.620 and proceed toward their destination. 01:02:23.140 --> 01:02:24.620 Oh, no, I'm sorry. We're holding up the bank. 01:02:24.980 --> 01:02:26.520 We're holding up the bank. 01:02:26.560 --> 01:02:27.640 Oh, no, no. We were here first. 01:02:28.480 --> 01:02:30.780 Look, could you come back tomorrow? We'll be finished by then. 01:02:30.780 --> 01:02:32.740 We've been planning this for months. 01:02:32.860 --> 01:02:34.600 We're not going to have it ruined by a jackass. 01:02:35.700 --> 01:02:36.640 All right, we'll take a vote. 01:02:37.200 --> 01:02:39.420 How many people here would like to be held up by this group? 01:02:43.860 --> 01:02:46.140 Now, how many people would like to be held up by our group? 01:03:31.440 --> 01:03:34.220 The number of the gang gets 5 years for his part in the crime. 01:03:34.800 --> 01:03:35.860 Virgil gets 10. 01:03:36.700 --> 01:03:38.700 He is taken not to prison this time, 01:03:39.020 --> 01:03:40.040 but to a road gang 01:03:40.040 --> 01:03:43.140 where his criminal behavior will cost him dearly. 01:03:44.340 --> 01:03:45.800 You men come here 01:03:46.360 --> 01:03:48.200 because you committed crimes 01:03:48.200 --> 01:03:51.400 rendering you unfit to live in decent society. 01:03:52.200 --> 01:03:53.100 That's too bad. 01:03:53.860 --> 01:03:55.560 I think you're going to find you made a mistake 01:03:55.560 --> 01:03:56.520 you're going to regret. 01:03:58.820 --> 01:04:00.600 Our job, men and the boys, 01:04:01.120 --> 01:04:03.740 is to see that you get some civilization in you 01:04:03.740 --> 01:04:05.020 so that when you leave here, 01:04:05.500 --> 01:04:06.720 you're going to think twice 01:04:07.560 --> 01:04:10.580 about performing antisocial acts. 01:04:12.080 --> 01:04:13.660 My advice to you 01:04:14.540 --> 01:04:16.840 is to obey the rules and do your job. 01:04:17.120 --> 01:04:18.600 You got any complaints, you come to me. 01:04:18.720 --> 01:04:20.440 There ain't nobody in the outside going to help you. 01:04:22.560 --> 01:04:24.320 Now, we don't like complainers 01:04:24.320 --> 01:04:26.000 and we don't like troublemakers. 01:04:27.120 --> 01:04:29.960 If things get a little too rough for you in here, 01:04:31.680 --> 01:04:33.820 you're just free to take off for Florida. 01:04:36.180 --> 01:04:38.420 Sean, which direction Florida is, boys? 01:04:38.420 --> 01:04:47.410 Any questions? 01:04:48.710 --> 01:04:51.210 Do you think a girl should pet on the first date? 01:04:51.970 --> 01:04:52.310 What? 01:04:53.150 --> 01:04:56.750 I mean if both parties involved are mature and liberal. 01:04:57.330 --> 01:04:58.490 Gonna see Miss Liza. 01:05:01.150 --> 01:05:02.550 Gonna go to Mississippi. 01:05:05.190 --> 01:05:06.730 Gonna see Miss Liza. 01:05:09.310 --> 01:05:10.830 Gonna go to Mississippi. 01:05:13.350 --> 01:05:15.130 Gonna see Miss Liza. 01:05:21.190 --> 01:05:22.670 Gonna see Miss Liza. 01:05:23.570 --> 01:05:24.770 Gonna see Miss Liza. 01:05:29.840 --> 01:05:30.800 Gonna see Miss Liza. 01:05:31.540 --> 01:05:32.600 Gonna go to Mississippi. 01:05:33.560 --> 01:05:35.000 Gonna see Miss Liza. 01:05:35.680 --> 01:05:37.000 Gonna go to Mississippi. 01:05:37.780 --> 01:05:38.860 Gonna see Miss Liza. 01:06:28.620 --> 01:06:30.680 You think you got a good enough aim 01:06:31.240 --> 01:06:33.260 with that hammer to knock these bracelets off me? 01:06:33.780 --> 01:06:34.840 Look, man, I don't want no trouble. 01:06:36.200 --> 01:06:37.020 Nothing's gonna happen. 01:06:37.640 --> 01:06:38.320 You think you can do it? 01:06:39.140 --> 01:06:39.800 Never missed yet. 01:06:41.000 --> 01:06:42.120 All right, go ahead. 01:06:42.120 --> 01:06:54.220 Sorry, man, first time. 01:07:00.820 --> 01:07:03.640 Food on a chain gang is scarce and not very nourishing. 01:07:04.220 --> 01:07:07.260 The men get one hot meal a day, a bowl of steam. 01:07:17.680 --> 01:07:18.280 James, work. 01:07:45.760 --> 01:07:46.140 You taking? 01:07:47.060 --> 01:07:48.520 Come on, I want you to see this 01:07:48.520 --> 01:07:50.140 so you'll know what you got to look forward to. 01:08:09.580 --> 01:08:10.320 What do you mean? 01:08:11.340 --> 01:08:13.420 Don't beat the shout of your damn food. 01:08:13.680 --> 01:08:14.060 Be him. 01:08:15.160 --> 01:08:16.200 Oh, him? 01:08:16.640 --> 01:08:17.100 Jesus. 01:08:17.920 --> 01:08:20.160 The time drags by in an endless grind 01:08:20.160 --> 01:08:21.320 of backbreaking labor. 01:08:24.240 --> 01:08:26.480 Brutal discipline is common under the hot sun. 01:08:27.140 --> 01:08:28.680 The men are not even permitted to faint 01:08:28.680 --> 01:08:29.900 without written permission. 01:08:31.100 --> 01:08:33.440 Virgil complains, and he is severely tortured. 01:08:34.180 --> 01:08:36.200 For several days, he is locked in a sweat box 01:08:36.200 --> 01:08:37.580 with an insurance salesman. 01:08:38.100 --> 01:08:39.460 Hi, I'm Joe Green. 01:08:39.620 --> 01:08:42.020 I represent the Ajax Widgets Insurance Company. 01:08:42.560 --> 01:08:44.240 I'd like to talk to you about your insurance. 01:08:44.660 --> 01:08:45.580 You're about 30, right? 01:08:46.040 --> 01:08:47.440 You know, I think the best thing to do 01:08:47.440 --> 01:08:49.600 would be to get straight in life plus a little term. 01:08:50.280 --> 01:08:51.080 And, uh... 01:08:51.080 --> 01:08:52.100 How about dental and medical? 01:08:52.240 --> 01:08:54.280 We've got this major medical. It's a good deal. 01:08:57.620 --> 01:08:59.080 At the end of each workday, 01:08:59.200 --> 01:09:01.160 the men are chained to each other by the ankle 01:09:01.160 --> 01:09:03.360 in groups of six, making movements 01:09:03.360 --> 01:09:06.480 slow and painful, and escape impossible. 01:09:15.270 --> 01:09:18.070 Then, one day, the impossible is attempted. 01:09:25.330 --> 01:09:25.930 See that feel? 01:09:26.990 --> 01:09:28.890 When we make it across that field, we'd be out of here. 01:09:29.310 --> 01:09:30.570 We could take them by surprise, 01:09:31.250 --> 01:09:32.970 and we all suddenly made a break for it. 01:09:33.790 --> 01:09:34.590 You're crazy. 01:09:34.590 --> 01:09:35.610 That's right. 01:09:36.350 --> 01:09:37.970 Well, a paranoid schizo-frenic, 01:09:38.050 --> 01:09:39.190 but I say we try it. 01:09:40.250 --> 01:09:41.230 Ain't that right, boys? 01:09:41.790 --> 01:09:42.370 Try it. 01:09:42.830 --> 01:09:43.010 All right. 01:09:52.190 --> 01:12:28.330 We're supposed to get us out of these chains. 01:12:34.740 --> 01:12:36.060 Answer it, or you're finished. 01:12:37.160 --> 01:12:38.020 Who is it? 01:12:38.680 --> 01:12:39.600 The trolman lynched. 01:12:40.120 --> 01:12:40.600 Did I come in? 01:12:41.280 --> 01:12:42.400 Well, not now. 01:12:43.040 --> 01:12:45.260 It's an emergency. I'm afraid I'll have to. 01:12:45.600 --> 01:12:46.440 You bet on Tyre. 01:12:47.200 --> 01:12:48.000 Tell him that we're your cousins. 01:12:48.220 --> 01:12:49.420 Tell him we're visiting you from out of town. 01:12:57.420 --> 01:12:58.940 False move, and you're finished. 01:13:03.900 --> 01:13:04.540 What is it? 01:13:04.540 --> 01:13:06.420 I hear there's been some trouble up at the prison. 01:13:07.380 --> 01:13:09.260 I'm checking the area for anything suspicious. 01:13:09.940 --> 01:13:11.240 These are my cousins. 01:13:11.860 --> 01:13:13.740 They're visiting me for the holiday. 01:13:14.480 --> 01:13:14.980 What holiday? 01:13:16.840 --> 01:13:17.240 Uh... 01:13:17.240 --> 01:13:19.140 Did you ever hear of St. Abernathy's Day? 01:13:19.660 --> 01:13:19.980 No. 01:13:20.520 --> 01:13:21.480 That's what we're here for. 01:13:23.480 --> 01:13:24.240 Come here, you. 01:13:25.460 --> 01:13:26.040 Come here. 01:13:26.360 --> 01:13:35.600 I think your cousin is safe living here all alone. 01:13:36.360 --> 01:13:37.580 Look how close we are to the prison. 01:13:38.360 --> 01:13:39.040 Look out here. 01:13:39.580 --> 01:13:41.600 It's just a few miles down the road. 01:13:41.860 --> 01:13:57.070 Did I see something move out there? 01:13:57.310 --> 01:13:57.830 You couldn't have. 01:13:58.450 --> 01:13:59.750 I'm sure I saw something move. 01:14:00.230 --> 01:14:03.010 Quick, everybody take one window and check it. 01:14:03.410 --> 01:14:05.990 If there's somebody out there, we're gonna have a chance to see him. 01:14:12.640 --> 01:14:14.220 I guess it must have been my imagination. 01:14:21.060 --> 01:14:21.620 Excuse us. 01:14:38.990 --> 01:14:39.230 Thanks. 01:14:39.370 --> 01:14:39.530 Really? 01:14:39.810 --> 01:14:40.670 They've broken in. 01:14:41.210 --> 01:14:44.250 Didn't you notice how they all moved together closely? 01:14:44.870 --> 01:14:47.190 They're chained together at the ankles. 01:14:47.550 --> 01:14:49.210 I thought they were just a close family. 01:14:50.370 --> 01:14:51.150 Okay, boys. 01:14:51.790 --> 01:14:52.730 The game's up. 01:14:56.050 --> 01:14:57.610 The old lady must have told. 01:14:58.390 --> 01:14:59.590 You're going back to that prison. 01:15:00.070 --> 01:15:02.250 And this time, you're gonna stay there. 01:15:08.460 --> 01:15:10.220 Let's get my wife. She'll help us out of this. 01:15:10.620 --> 01:15:25.810 We needed the money and I robbed a bank. 01:15:26.850 --> 01:15:29.090 Virgil, when are you going to stop doing that? 01:15:29.270 --> 01:15:31.290 Don't you realize you're a father. 01:15:31.490 --> 01:15:32.570 You have responsibilities. 01:15:33.090 --> 01:15:34.890 She's my wife. I built her one. 01:15:34.890 --> 01:15:36.730 Do you mind keeping out of this, please? 01:15:37.230 --> 01:15:39.690 I don't want to discuss it unless we're alone. 01:15:39.890 --> 01:15:41.270 Well, I want to discuss it now. 01:15:41.390 --> 01:15:42.690 You don't want to discuss it alone. 01:15:56.660 --> 01:16:00.160 I'm a young woman sleeping alone here every night. 01:16:02.720 --> 01:16:04.420 Don't you think that means something to me? 01:16:04.540 --> 01:16:05.620 How do you think I feel? 01:16:06.240 --> 01:16:08.740 I think back to the days when you were in the Philharmonic. 01:16:08.800 --> 01:16:10.660 I was never in the Philharmonic. 01:16:10.920 --> 01:16:11.880 We used to lie in bed. 01:16:11.920 --> 01:16:13.360 You used to make love to me. 01:16:13.460 --> 01:16:17.020 You used to recite poetry and play with that doll. 01:16:18.580 --> 01:16:27.540 Don't you know that no matter what happens, 01:16:27.560 --> 01:16:29.420 you're always gonna mean the same to me. 01:16:29.780 --> 01:16:32.220 You and you stop giggling. 01:16:33.380 --> 01:16:37.280 You'll always mean the sun and the earth and the moon to me. 01:16:37.440 --> 01:16:38.400 Oh, Christ. 01:16:41.540 --> 01:16:45.100 With Louise's help, the chains are removed from Virgil's ankles. 01:16:45.720 --> 01:16:47.600 Once more, the family takes flight, 01:16:48.060 --> 01:16:50.300 feeling guilty about their son's education. 01:16:50.960 --> 01:16:52.580 Louise tries tutoring him. 01:16:52.580 --> 01:16:59.010 I'm very depressed. 01:17:01.470 --> 01:17:02.590 I think... 01:17:02.590 --> 01:17:05.430 I think if he had been a successful criminal, 01:17:06.170 --> 01:17:07.370 he would have felt better. 01:17:08.630 --> 01:17:11.310 You know, he never made the ten most wanted list. 01:17:12.910 --> 01:17:14.530 It's very unfair voting. 01:17:15.170 --> 01:17:16.010 It's who you know. 01:17:16.410 --> 01:17:18.990 Virgil Stark well embarks on a series of crimes 01:17:18.990 --> 01:17:20.970 that make him a wanted desperado. 01:17:24.570 --> 01:17:36.400 Bob, the vault of a bank, 01:17:36.760 --> 01:17:39.340 but finds a family of gypsies are living there. 01:17:42.260 --> 01:17:43.800 By the end of six months, 01:17:44.300 --> 01:17:46.600 the FBI regard Virgil as a menace. 01:17:47.180 --> 01:17:49.800 Although he does not make the ten most wanted list, 01:17:50.220 --> 01:17:52.240 he does win Gangster of the Year award 01:17:52.240 --> 01:17:55.560 and is asked to speak at many luncheons and universities. 01:17:56.520 --> 01:17:57.900 For the end of the story, 01:17:57.980 --> 01:18:00.600 we spoke to Mr. Daniel Miller, an FBI agent 01:18:00.600 --> 01:18:02.860 and an author of the book Mother was a Red. 01:18:03.380 --> 01:18:06.080 The FBI actually wanted Virgil very badly. 01:18:06.780 --> 01:18:11.020 Mr. Hoover was quite upset by Mr. Stark well and his activities. 01:18:11.200 --> 01:18:14.060 In fact, he confided to me on several occasions. 01:18:14.740 --> 01:18:19.020 I can remember one very well after a bowling match on Thursday night. 01:18:19.760 --> 01:18:21.660 And when she said he couldn't sleep nights, 01:18:21.700 --> 01:18:23.780 he was smoking a little too much. 01:18:24.320 --> 01:18:26.940 And he thought that this... 01:18:27.560 --> 01:18:29.860 this criminal, as he put it, 01:18:29.860 --> 01:18:34.000 might very well be part of a subversive plot. 01:18:35.820 --> 01:18:40.200 Obviously an atheist and a pink-o 01:18:40.840 --> 01:18:44.380 and trying in general to disturb our society. 01:18:45.880 --> 01:18:48.600 They finally traced him to a cheap neighborhood 01:18:48.600 --> 01:18:50.840 down in Lower East Side from New York, 01:18:50.960 --> 01:18:52.540 where he was living at the time 01:18:52.540 --> 01:18:55.340 in a very sleazy run-down tenement house. 01:18:55.800 --> 01:18:57.060 Verge, I remember him. 01:18:57.060 --> 01:18:59.240 I used to live with him, as a matter of fact, 01:18:59.580 --> 01:19:01.020 in the same rooming house that is. 01:19:02.120 --> 01:19:04.420 One day he told me he was a gynecologist 01:19:04.840 --> 01:19:06.920 and he couldn't speak no foreign languages. 01:19:08.180 --> 01:19:08.960 Who's he kidding? 01:19:10.180 --> 01:19:13.640 I thought I saw his picture on a post office. 01:19:14.380 --> 01:19:16.020 I didn't remember whether it was on the wall 01:19:16.020 --> 01:19:17.440 or on a stamp. 01:19:18.540 --> 01:19:19.460 You remember Virgil? 01:19:19.920 --> 01:19:21.160 Oh, yeah. Yeah. 01:19:21.800 --> 01:19:24.300 Well, I don't know. Now I think he's brilliant. 01:19:24.660 --> 01:19:25.960 I mean, just absolutely brilliant. 01:19:26.520 --> 01:19:28.280 Just when I found out that he was a criminal, 01:19:28.840 --> 01:19:30.020 I just couldn't believe it. 01:19:30.060 --> 01:19:31.220 I just thought I was gonna die, 01:19:31.360 --> 01:19:35.660 because he just was the best cover-up job 01:19:35.660 --> 01:19:36.960 I've ever seen in my life. 01:19:37.140 --> 01:19:38.640 I mean, unbelievable acting job. 01:19:38.860 --> 01:19:40.760 I actually believed that he was an idiot. 01:19:41.640 --> 01:19:42.640 I mean, I really believed. 01:19:42.760 --> 01:19:45.260 And I wasn't the only one, like everybody thought so. 01:19:45.340 --> 01:19:47.080 Everyone just thought that he was such a schlamiel 01:19:47.080 --> 01:19:48.280 and it turns out he's a criminal. 01:19:48.940 --> 01:19:51.120 I just to think that that idiot was a criminal, 01:19:51.200 --> 01:19:52.400 I just can't believe it. 01:19:52.720 --> 01:19:54.980 I mean, you never met anybody like this in your life. 01:19:54.980 --> 01:19:56.640 You've never met such a nothing. 01:19:57.100 --> 01:19:58.040 I can't believe it. 01:19:58.120 --> 01:19:59.820 There was a mind working in there 01:19:59.820 --> 01:20:01.740 that could rob banks. It's phenomenal. 01:20:02.780 --> 01:20:04.820 Phenomenal. You know it once, once. 01:20:05.240 --> 01:20:06.300 I said to him, what do you do? 01:20:06.900 --> 01:20:09.160 He said, uh, I rob banks. 01:20:09.540 --> 01:20:10.300 Go know, right? 01:20:11.320 --> 01:20:13.300 But we finally caught up to him. 01:20:13.820 --> 01:20:15.640 And, oh, I think it was April 11th 01:20:15.640 --> 01:20:16.920 we finally captured Virgil. 01:20:17.840 --> 01:20:19.760 It was sort of a very odd circumstances. 01:20:20.500 --> 01:20:22.560 Uh, an amateur photographer 01:20:22.560 --> 01:20:24.080 happened to be there at the time. 01:20:24.800 --> 01:20:28.140 And, uh, took the only known films of his capture. 01:20:29.200 --> 01:20:30.600 I was coming down here. 01:20:30.780 --> 01:20:32.280 This is a spot where it actually happened. 01:20:32.920 --> 01:20:34.380 You see, as a matter of fact, 01:20:34.480 --> 01:20:36.920 I had just brought my, uh, pants into the cleaners. 01:20:37.440 --> 01:20:39.260 And I was sort of angry with them 01:20:39.260 --> 01:20:40.680 because last time I brought them in, 01:20:40.700 --> 01:20:42.300 I asked them to sell a button on and they hadn't. 01:20:42.620 --> 01:20:43.380 Did you get that point? 01:20:44.780 --> 01:20:47.660 Oh, yes. Well, uh, 01:20:48.460 --> 01:20:50.140 I'll tell you exactly what happened this morning, 01:20:50.460 --> 01:20:51.460 uh, with me. 01:20:52.380 --> 01:20:53.340 And about the camera. 01:20:53.960 --> 01:20:56.680 Well, uh, back to this, uh, thing in which, uh, 01:20:56.760 --> 01:20:58.540 I became known merely because of what happened 01:20:58.540 --> 01:20:59.280 and I had the camera. 01:21:00.040 --> 01:21:01.840 Uh, I was having breakfast in the morning. 01:21:02.360 --> 01:21:05.000 I think it was two fried eggs, a toast. 01:21:06.320 --> 01:21:08.060 I don't know whether it was orange juice or grapefruit, 01:21:08.120 --> 01:21:09.980 but I remember I had a juice. I don't remember what it was. 01:21:10.400 --> 01:21:12.380 Uh, but at that time, 01:21:13.160 --> 01:21:14.580 it was orange juice. That's right. 01:21:15.720 --> 01:21:17.420 In fact, I've got them right here. 01:21:17.520 --> 01:21:18.400 I'd like to show them to you. 01:21:18.400 --> 01:21:21.200 The very last films of Virgil Stockwell 01:21:21.200 --> 01:21:22.720 being captured by the FBI. 01:21:24.420 --> 01:21:26.420 All right, get your hands up, Mr. Sticker. 01:21:27.520 --> 01:21:28.300 Hey, I know you. 01:21:29.240 --> 01:21:30.980 Virgil Stockwell. That's right. 01:21:31.580 --> 01:21:34.160 Uh, oh, uh, Eddie. 01:21:34.640 --> 01:21:36.160 What, what, Haynes? That's right. 01:21:36.860 --> 01:21:38.540 We were in the marching band together, right? 01:21:38.580 --> 01:21:39.840 You played a cello. You were always there. 01:21:40.200 --> 01:21:41.420 I was trombone, first trombone. 01:21:41.560 --> 01:21:43.900 Isn't that funny? Oh, my God. 01:21:44.100 --> 01:21:45.060 Hey, what are you doing? 01:21:45.060 --> 01:21:46.420 I'm with the Philharmonic. 01:21:46.800 --> 01:21:48.040 Don't get it, that's great. 01:21:48.580 --> 01:21:49.760 I was just talking to someone. 01:21:50.180 --> 01:21:52.680 Ask a sunken about the great guys we used to have together. 01:21:53.280 --> 01:21:54.380 They were hilarious. 01:21:55.740 --> 01:21:57.680 You remember when we had a court taking a shower 01:21:57.680 --> 01:21:58.560 and a big block on the wall? 01:21:59.420 --> 01:22:01.080 I never saw anybody so embarrassed. 01:22:01.540 --> 01:22:02.720 I didn't forget your face. 01:22:03.380 --> 01:22:04.760 My face? You dropped the towel. 01:22:04.880 --> 01:22:06.040 You dropped the towel, too? 01:22:08.080 --> 01:22:09.960 Let me have your watch, will you? 01:22:10.020 --> 01:22:10.760 Oh, yes, sure. 01:22:12.120 --> 01:22:13.860 Uh, hey, hey, remember that? 01:22:14.020 --> 01:22:15.760 We painted the car yellow. 01:22:16.500 --> 01:22:17.860 Right, on Halloween, I remember that. 01:22:17.880 --> 01:22:18.740 That's right, it was Halloween. 01:22:18.940 --> 01:22:20.620 It was really funny. It was yellow striped. 01:22:20.640 --> 01:22:21.780 That's right, like a barber pole. 01:22:23.240 --> 01:22:25.260 They keep your hands up. I have to shoot you. 01:22:25.580 --> 01:22:26.240 Oh, yeah, yeah. 01:22:26.620 --> 01:22:28.140 Oh, Jesus, remember the football game? 01:22:28.580 --> 01:22:29.840 You fumbled the last player. 01:22:29.840 --> 01:22:32.540 That's right, and then I ran the wrong way. 01:22:32.920 --> 01:22:34.460 Everybody was yelling a little back up, 01:22:34.600 --> 01:22:35.540 and I thought they were cheering. 01:22:35.540 --> 01:22:36.560 All right, all right. 01:22:36.940 --> 01:22:38.380 It can't be the good old days. 01:22:38.580 --> 01:22:39.580 Or the good old nights. 01:22:40.640 --> 01:22:42.240 Oh, Jesus. 01:22:43.180 --> 01:22:43.580 Wallet. 01:22:44.160 --> 01:22:45.640 Well, thank you. I didn't hear you. 01:22:45.960 --> 01:22:49.000 Look, it's been great speaking to you, really. 01:22:49.200 --> 01:22:50.800 Oh, it's so nice to see you, Virgil. 01:22:50.800 --> 01:22:52.880 You, too. Take it easy. Let's see you again. 01:22:53.100 --> 01:22:54.020 Best of luck to you. Okay. 01:22:55.300 --> 01:22:56.840 Virgil, I just realized. 01:22:57.500 --> 01:22:58.260 I'm a cop. 01:22:58.860 --> 01:22:59.920 No kidding. How's it going? 01:23:00.120 --> 01:23:02.520 Oh, it's a great job. I get a pension. 01:23:02.520 --> 01:23:05.140 Do you remember when the ball went up? 01:23:06.120 --> 01:23:09.240 Virgil Starkwell has tried on 52 counts of robbery 01:23:09.240 --> 01:23:12.640 and is sentenced to 800 years in federal prison. 01:23:13.200 --> 01:23:16.160 At the trial, he tells his lawyer confidently 01:23:16.160 --> 01:23:19.400 that with good behavior, he can cut the sentence in half. 01:23:19.660 --> 01:23:21.560 Virgil, now that you're caught 01:23:21.560 --> 01:23:23.640 and they're facing a very long prison sentence, 01:23:23.800 --> 01:23:25.780 do you have any regrets about choosing a life of crime? 01:23:26.780 --> 01:23:29.060 I think that crime definitely pays 01:23:29.060 --> 01:23:32.460 and that, you know, it's a great job 01:23:32.460 --> 01:23:34.420 the hours are good and you're your own boss 01:23:34.420 --> 01:23:36.300 and you travel a lot 01:23:36.300 --> 01:23:38.440 and you get to meet interesting people 01:23:38.440 --> 01:23:41.260 and I just think it's a good job in general. 01:23:42.100 --> 01:23:43.660 What about your cohorts? 01:23:44.100 --> 01:23:44.960 What has ever happened to them, 01:23:45.060 --> 01:23:47.100 all of the many guys you've been associated with 01:23:47.100 --> 01:23:47.840 and various gangs? 01:23:48.720 --> 01:23:53.520 A great many of them have become homosexuals 01:23:53.520 --> 01:23:56.460 and some of them have entered into politics and sports. 01:23:57.580 --> 01:23:59.800 Well, how do you manage to spend your time in prison? 01:23:59.940 --> 01:24:01.320 Do you have any hobbies or anything? 01:24:01.320 --> 01:24:04.080 I do. I've been working on... 01:24:04.500 --> 01:24:06.760 I've been doing a lot of stuff in shop, actually, 01:24:06.960 --> 01:24:09.660 and I'm very skilled with my hands. 01:24:10.160 --> 01:24:11.520 You know if it's raining out?